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a2area
06-04-2010, 01:54 PM
These are from a tutorial that i just did for ProFantasy's "Annual" Web Site. The actual tutorial should be up next week and I'll add the link here when I get it. In the tutorial I go through the steps to create the entire map from Fractal Terrains > Wilbur > Photoshop.... and then within Photoshop it's just a matter of changing layer styles ("recipes") to achieve the various styles. I could obviously have added tons more detail but the tutorial was mainly targeted at the map style itself and the ease of changing a look using layer styles.

tilt
06-04-2010, 02:37 PM
those are looking really good, very nice indeed :)

Yandor
06-04-2010, 02:44 PM
Wow, those are looking good, can't wait to see the tutorial

Steel General
06-04-2010, 05:18 PM
Cool stuff!

Aenigma
06-05-2010, 01:28 AM
Quite nice :)

Sadist
06-05-2010, 03:30 AM
very cool, I like

dangerdog15
06-08-2010, 10:57 PM
The maps are beautiful. But the name is really cool. (Israh) Yours or borrowed?

fusion
06-13-2010, 12:43 AM
The maps are done with great skill.

arsheesh
06-13-2010, 12:57 AM
Hold on a second while I wipe the drool off my chin... awe that's better. I'll be looking forward to that tut a2area.

Cheers,
-Arsheesh

Diamond
06-13-2010, 01:34 AM
You are truly a magnificent cartographer. Can't really think of a better compliment than that.

PokealypseNow
06-17-2010, 03:57 PM
This. This is the sound of my jaw hitting the floor.

dannyg
12-08-2010, 10:31 PM
Did this tutorial happen? I can't find it.

Thanks!

Diamond
12-09-2010, 10:32 PM
Yeah, I was wondering that too...

Candacis
04-21-2011, 06:43 AM
Hello, where can I find the tutorial to this maps?

a2area
04-21-2011, 01:10 PM
I was a bit late with it so i guess they didn't wind up using it after all... or maybe it was just too long (haha) but they did use the Torentine Empire map style in an Annual. I'll post a link to it here for now since it's probably for a limited audience:

http://www.worldofgotha.com/PF_TUTORIAL/israh_index.html

JackOfHearts
04-21-2011, 11:43 PM
Thanks, what a great looking tutorial. I think I might give this one a try!

Diamond
04-22-2011, 04:09 PM
Excellent, man. Clear, easy to follow, and awesome results. Repped!

a2area
04-22-2011, 06:40 PM
It's a bit long but its really my first tutorial... also, i have had a comment that some of the wilbur options were different but i'm not aware of what version they were using (i was using 32-Bit).

The last page "miscellaneous" has graphics of the layers pallets and their settings to show how i got the different 'looks' just by changing the same original layers output from Wilbur and Fractal Terrains.

Basically though, by using wilbur settings, mainly varying the severity of your incise flows on different altitude selections and playing with your layer settings in photoshop you could get almost endless #s of looks

JackOfHearts
04-23-2011, 02:17 AM
I've been going through your tutorial... One thing - I'm new to this software, what exactly is incise flow doing, and why do you use so many of them at different altitudes. I'm trying to understand what you're doing so I can do more than just mimic the steps you laid out. Thanks!

JackOfHearts
04-23-2011, 02:25 AM
I've been going through your tutorial... One thing - I'm new to this software, what exactly is incise flow doing, and why do you use so many of them at different altitudes. I'm trying to understand what you're doing so I can do more than just mimic the steps you laid out. Thanks!

Also, I'm getting some strange black squares on part of my map. Does anyone have any idea what is causing them? I can't seem to paint over them.

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Ascension
04-23-2011, 09:19 AM
Oh, cool - ancient artefects. :) Waldronate may have some answers for the black squares.

waldronate
04-23-2011, 03:26 PM
The black squares are due to a bug in FT that will cause certain operations to result in an infinity or not-a-number in an editing cell. ProFantasy's tech support has access to a version that will correct that problem.

Incise Flow finds where a fluid would flow across the surface and removes more surface where the flow is higher. It computes the flow by dropping a little blob on each point on the map and letting the blob move downhill as far it will go. At each point on the surface that it visits, it increases a counter for each cell. The counter results for all of the little blobs on the surface are the amount of flow on the surface. After the flow is computed, a modified version of the flow for each point gets subtracted from each editing point, incising the flow into the surface.

The idea of using multiple incise operations at each level is to get varying widths along the path of a river with the general idea that rivers closer to the ocean will have wider valleys than those higher up. Wilbur's Variable blur feature tried to implement this idea directly by using the flow amount as the width of the blur, but it didn't quite work out the way that I'd hoped.

JackOfHearts
04-23-2011, 05:04 PM
Thanks for the response waldronate! Your response made it sound like I'll have to go to tech support to get a new version of the software to correct it. I'll look into doing that, or it may just be faster for me to start over.

I still feel a little lost on using that function, and what the difference is between using it in fractal terrain and wilbur. I'll look around for some tutorials and see what I can make of it.

waldronate
04-23-2011, 09:00 PM
In Wilbur the editing resolution is all you'll ever get; in FT the editing resolution is typically much lower than the maximum possible zoom level. FT also does an automatic basin fill before the incise flow operation that Wilbur doesn't do, while Wilbur has a couple of extra blur options and a preview on its incise operation. FT and WIlbur share many parts in common, but FT is aimed at world making and export to CC2, while Wilbur is aimed at general height field editing.

JackOfHearts
04-24-2011, 04:12 PM
Still playing with Wilbur. It seems to take a -very- long time to bring up the incise flow dialog. Is this something I'm doing wrong? The dialog seems to take 5 min or more to come up, then the actual incise takes a few seconds.

Candacis
04-25-2011, 06:00 AM
Thanks for posting the tutorial ^^ I find fractal terrain really difficult to use for a beginner, but you explained it so good that I wanna give it a try ^^

a2area
05-24-2011, 03:40 AM
OMG.. those black squares are from HELL (fumes, smoke comes out of ears)!!! They put a huge irreparable hole in my current geofiction planet.. i had to fudge that area but oh well.. I try not to think about it, haha. It has something to do with infinity as a reading i think and it seems to happen along the main meridian of the map. Good to know they have another version.. i couldnt get any answers about it when it happened to me but that was right when the new version was out.

@JackOfHearts Yes.. the process can be tedious.. not sure but it seems like wilbur does all the calculations while bringing up the box.. its not fast if you're working on a big map. 5 minutes is not unusual but you might want to do the map in quarters or something.

@Waldonrate Thanks for replying to them.. i havent been watching this thread.. Still wishing for a spherical based wilbur.. i think i can probably keep on wishing though huh? haha