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kylefight11
07-10-2010, 02:46 PM
hey everyone, as this is my first post i'll give some background.
I think the idea of creating an entire world from scratch is cool and a while ago i decided to do it someday. I want to get very detailed and realistic with my world (like Nemo Ramjet's Snaiad for those who know it). I also have an idea for a SciFi book/possible series i am thinking about writing (not for publishing im not that good) to get some ideas stuck in my head out. I am a hopeless incapable drawer so most of my work will be on my comp or commissioned out. i want to make a very realistic map of my world (including things like plate tectonics) i have some free programs on my computer to help with this. the one i think seems the coolest is also the one i understand the least; Wilbur. Are there any tutorials on the features of this program? the ones i have seen seem to be for different versions. also are there any good climate simulators out there i want to see what the weather would be like, the only thing is that my planet orbits a red dwarf star and is tidally locked to it. any materials i should have (be they programs, books etc.)?
thanks,
Kyle

Seretur
07-10-2010, 05:21 PM
I'd recommend GIMP for starters. I don't know much about Wilbur, but RobA has some awesome, easy tutorials for GIMP.

What are the other programs (besides Wilbur) you have? So far, I've only been using GIMP, but I'd like to learn about other programs. As for the climate simulators, I'd be interested to hear what others say about that as well.

Steel General
07-10-2010, 06:05 PM
If you decide to use Wilbur - the developer is a fairly regular poster here, so any questions you may have should get answered in a relatively timely fashion.

Midgardsormr
07-10-2010, 06:24 PM
I'm not familiar with any software that produces realistic climate data, but there are a few resources available to help you through it. The most accessible is probably the Climate Cookbook. (http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~fc503/geoff/climate.html)

For Wilbur, I'm assuming you are referring to the tutorials here: http://www.ridgenet.net/~jslayton/tutorials.pdf ?

And, like the climate issue, I'm not aware of any applications that will simulate tectonic activity. I'd love to see one, though!

Ascension
07-10-2010, 09:12 PM
There are at least three tutorials called Fun With Wilbur here but they're really buried deep in the vaults. I use those three tuts when I play with Wilbur. The guy who created Wilbur is Waldronate (member name) and he made the tuts and is always around. For tectonics and climate I (and most others) just make it up as we go since, as Mid said, there aren't any freely available programs to simulate such things. All you can do is read up on such subjects and then apply a liberal dash of "who cares it's my world".

Seretur
07-10-2010, 09:39 PM
Or not read up, and add a large dump of "who cares it's my world". That is the one I prefer.

waldronate
07-10-2010, 10:37 PM
Um, yeah... What they said. The Fun With Wilbur series is also available from the main Wilbur download page accessible from http://www.ridgenet.net/~jslayton/software.html.

The Wilbur documentation, tutorials, and program all tend to be a bit out of sync. There used to be a Wilbur mailing list, but I've decided to officially abandon it after Yahoo!'s last change to their terms of service/login process. It got about one e-mail a year so there's no point in putting up with the endless Yahoo! and spammer aggravation.

A little searching may turn up links to Dave Allen's tec, clim, and/or World Builder software. tec is a tectonics simulator, clim is a climate simulator, and World Builder is a piece of software that merges the two and adds some other features.

kylefight11
07-10-2010, 11:41 PM
i downloaded world builder 1.3 (i think) but it doesnt seem to work. whan i run the app i get a gray window. does any one have any idea how to fix it?

waldronate
07-10-2010, 11:44 PM
The title World Builder is very popular out there. The software that Dave Allen did by that name was distributed 10+ years ago from his web site (long since defunct). Where did you get the product that's causing you troubles?

kylefight11
07-11-2010, 12:00 AM
i got it from another forum where some one asked about it and some one else posted the link

waldronate
07-11-2010, 01:17 AM
The one posted on Yahoo!'s rpg-tools group seems to have issues with Vista and Windows 7 on the registry protection front. I'm not sure how it does on XP, though.

kylefight11
07-11-2010, 05:12 AM
well its irrelevant because i use windows 7

waldronate
07-11-2010, 06:34 AM
I commented out line 442 (put a "#" in front of "init_registry") in world.tcl and the world.exe program seems to run on Vista. This change removes the .wb file type auto-registration but that change is a minor one in overall functionality.

kylefight11
07-13-2010, 03:22 PM
anyways, does any one know of a planetary calculator-type thing where you can input a couple of variables in for your imaginary planet, like mass and density, and you can see other things like diameter/circumference, surface gravity, and other things like that. i found one not long ago but i forgot to bookmark it and i cant find it again. also does any one know of a similar program but for stars and their properties? it would be nice if it also included the size of its habitable zone. thanks

jfrazierjr
07-13-2010, 03:48 PM
Profantasy has Cosmographer Pro, which is a Campaign Cartographer 3 add on program. NBOS has AstroSynthesis (sp??) which is a stand alone program. I don't know anything about the former and only a bit about the later, but AS is supposed to have some really nice features as well as a scripting engine for which many fans have created scripts to generate random type of planetary data including habitation(though, I don't know if it has any way to calculate habitable ZONES of a planet.... it's basically... planet x supports life and has x population type thing.)

Redrobes
07-25-2010, 09:05 AM
Look on my sig for keyword index and then wilbur.