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Thothmoses
08-10-2010, 05:23 PM
Stories say that the farmer named Dimmer prospered in the valley until he disturbubed the stones of an ancient temple. Now something dark swells in the remshakle remains of the farmstead. Comments Please.
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cjs0216
08-10-2010, 05:48 PM
The hills look a little weird because of the bevel? that you used. They'd be a good start if they were dunes. Maybe try blurring the blockyness out of them or something like that.

Ascension
08-11-2010, 12:04 AM
If you're using Photoshop you can change the bevel profile from the diagonal line to something more rounded and that will clear up the hills looking like cut gems.

mearrin69
08-11-2010, 12:05 AM
Oddly, I like the bevel. It's interesting looking.
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Thothmoses
08-11-2010, 12:51 PM
Thanks everyone. I'm using Xara not PS so the bevel is vector not raster. I kinda like the edge because it gives a sense of mass, but it is a little harsh. Overall I am trying to develop a technique in Xara for large hills close-up i.e, for small maps. I figure using form of light and shadow are the best bet. If anyone has a better angle then shaodowing, please chime in. The Bevel is being used to alter the luminosity of objects below which is why the trees in the upper right quadrant on one side of the hill are highlighted and brighter then trees on the plain and then are shadowed on the other.
My ultimate goal is to work out a set of techniques for maps of different scales (village to universe) and different styles (realistic to archaic to playful) using Xara.

Gamerprinter
08-11-2010, 01:14 PM
After creating a beveled hill in Xara, I always use a heavy dose of 'feather object' so the hill blends in with the background. Sometimes I convert the beveled hill to 'convert to editable shape', while I can't alter the bevel any longer, feathering works better, however it feathers both sides of the bevel so you'll need to be careful about revealing the layer beneath the hill between the bevel and the top of hill (I'll place a small extension of the hill top color to place beneath the hill to minimize that issue.) I usually apply such a heavy feather that the hill bevel is barely seen, more subtle and more realistic. Also consider giving your hill transparency level to blend in the background as well.

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Thothmoses
08-11-2010, 05:17 PM
After creating a beveled hill in Xara, I always use a heavy dose of 'feather object' so the hill blends in with the background. Sometimes I convert the beveled hill to 'convert to editable shape', while I can't alter the bevel any longer, feathering works better, however it feathers both sides of the bevel so you'll need to be careful about revealing the layer beneath the hill between the bevel and the top of hill (I'll place a small extension of the hill top color to place beneath the hill to minimize that issue.) I usually apply such a heavy feather that the hill bevel is barely seen, more subtle and more realistic. Also consider giving your hill transparency level to blend in the background as well.

GP

I used dome of that, and I think I am getting closer to what I want. I used the bevel, convert to editable shape, guassian blur, and then the luminosity transparency to make a softer hill with shadow and highlight.
I especially ike how it looks at the lower res when viewn from further out.

cjs0216
08-11-2010, 10:40 PM
Hills are looking better man

Ramah
08-12-2010, 06:01 AM
I actually really liked the hills on the first version, they had a very stylised, modern look to them. In fact, I really liked all the first image apart from the forests, which kinda looks like a texture just masked out with a feathered brush.

mearrin69
08-13-2010, 02:42 PM
Agree with Ramah. Fix the forest and put on a hex overlay and it's an awesome wargame map.
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Thothmoses
08-18-2010, 08:15 PM
Thanks, I'll try it with soft and sharp hills and try some different trick with the trees. Although, for separate reasons I like something about each of the tree styles in the two separate versions.