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Crayons
09-14-2010, 04:57 AM
I have an idea for the Current "Super" Challenge but it's rather lacking in subject matter...
The idea is to do a "cartoony" map of (mainly) Manhattan - in the same vein as my "doodle" in the city section - and to identify all the landmarks (or otherwise) for all "Alien/Monster" destructions and so forth. Unfortunately, I can only identify a few films that actually qualify and I was hoping you actual 'meuriceuhns might know of some more? There may be some TV series not well known this side of the pond that would be obvious to ye locals?
What I have on my list so far is...
--- remember, its Aliens and/or Monsters - I have avoided the mass destructive films like Armageddon, The Day After Tomorrow etc. I need, at least, a single identifiable building/place that gets hit (at first)

Statue of Liberty - Cloverfield
2, Broadway - Men in Black - HQ
Woolworth Building - Cloverfield
Brooklyn Bridge - Cloverfield
Bayonne (off map) - War of the Worlds
117 Spring Street - the pizza place in MIB 2
54, Macdougal Street - the Rosenberg Jewellers in MIB
Flatiron Building - Godzilla (actually hit by the army, not the monster, I gather)
Madison Square Gardens - Godzilla
Empire State Building - King Kong, Independence Day, Daleks!
Chrysler Building - Q, Godzilla (hit by helicopters)
Time Warner Building - Cloverfield
Central Park - token appearance of Gort from The Day the Earth Stood Still
Guggenheim Museum - MIB
55, Central Park West - Ghostbusters' Mr StayPuft
"Manhattan Tunnel" - I'm assuming the Lincoln Tunnel here? - The Deadly Mantis
Flushing Meadow (off map) - MIB
Athens, NY (way off map) - the ferry scene, The War of the Worlds

As you can see its mainly Cloverfield, MIB, and Godzilla - and I gather Godzilla wasn't to blame!

Anyone got any ideas for others???

mearrin69
09-14-2010, 09:16 AM
King Kong! Actually, I'm not up on monster movies. Was there anything showing NYC in Mars Attacks! What about superhero stuff? Surely there's some of that?
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RecklessEnthusiasm
09-14-2010, 03:12 PM
Spider-man villains, perhaps?

Jaxilon
09-15-2010, 05:33 PM
Yep, King Kong - Empire State building

rdanhenry
09-15-2010, 06:55 PM
The Daleks have been to Central Park ("Daleks in Manhatten", 2007).

You can turn up more stuff with Google:

http://io9.com/345631/ten-great-new-york-monsters-ok-one-is-from-new-jersey
http://www.unmuseum.org/notescurator/monstermovies.htm
This starts with the Beast from 20,000 Fathoms mauling Coney Island. That's got to be good. Most of the rest is non-New York films, though.
http://www.premiere.com/Feature/20-Movies-That-Destroy-New-York
http://www.scoutingny.com/?p=1154

That ought to provide a start on inspiration for further research.

Also, don't forget that several of the muppets are technically monsters:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087755/ (The Muppets Take Manhattan)

Crayons
09-15-2010, 08:48 PM
Thanks guys!
@mearrin & Jax - Yup, indeedy, King Kong was the easy one, and already on my list !

@RE - I'm not a spiderman officianado I'm afraid, I'll have to check up on the baddies there, cheers.

@rdanhenry
The Daleks from the Dr Who series I had down as being at the Empire State Building, which I gather was where they were up to no good (as usual) - I'll have to search a bit deeper to find where else they are associated.

That's the problem really. Someone has already noted how freaking BIG New York is for mapping so I kinda need important places where monsters have either done damage or dwelt or been associated with in some manner.
King Kong is an easy one - the fight against the planes on the Empire State is almost iconic.
The Q beast was rather small and only really snatched nekkid wimmin and the like - I think - but it lived in the Chrysler Building so that can be drawn at least.
The C.H.U.D - which I confess I have never heard of, look rather too small to damage anything building sized and seemingly lived in the sewers, so no particular place to associate them with. That's tricky to depict.
However, The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms sounds excellent - now I'm just off to find where Coney Island is!!! :D

I probably have enough to do something with, it might be better with more... we'll have to see! In the meantime, this is a very quick and rough sketch idea for Mr Cloverfield giving the Brooklyn Bridge the old "once over" as an example of the sort of thing I was going to put on such a map...

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tilt
09-16-2010, 03:17 AM
that sounds like a great idea.. sorry I can't add to the list, and in response to the superhero ideas a lot of superhero stories unfortunatly takes place in fictional cities ... but you allready have a lot and depending on how BIG you picture each incident you might not need any more? :)

Juggernaut1981
09-16-2010, 08:41 AM
You could do something equally comedic and twisted...

The Big Nasty Monster's Food Guide To NYC.

Brooklyn Bridge: Bit chewy, and the wires get stuck in your teeth
Chrysler Building: Too much glass, it hurts your palate!
Central Park: Good for entrees and also light drinks. Joggers are tasty but the bicycles provide a nice texture...

I'm sure you get the idea... could be a VERY funny entry. I just lack the cartoon skills to ever pull it off.

rdanhenry
09-16-2010, 09:39 AM
DC fictionalizes cities. New York has two DC doppelgangers: Metropolis and Gotham City. Marvel, OTOH, uses real cities and New York is superbeing central.

The biggest problem is that the same places tend to be revisited time and again, because using a major city for a setting, you want to blow up (or at least showcase) the major landmarks.

The Daleks have been to the Empire State Building twice: During "The Chase" (1965) and then again in "Daleks in Manhattan"/"Evolution of the Daleks" (2007). But the ESB is one building with *lots* of monster visits. Central Park has a bit more room on the map, so I thought I'd point out that they'd been exterminating their inferiors there as well.

Midgardsormr
09-16-2010, 10:39 AM
The Empire State Building was the focal point of the alien attack in Independence Day as well.

Crayons
09-17-2010, 03:22 AM
Thanks again guys. I've taken on board what you've suggested and decided to post up the "starting" (ehem) sketch of this idea on the Challenge threads. I've added "The Beast from 20,000 fathoms" having watched the salient bits on youtube. The Coney Island bit is a tad tame - nobody gets et. All it does is munch on the roller-coaster! Huh.
Anyway - I also remembered the "Hellboy" films which place a "Troll Market" under the "East end of the Brooklyn Bridge" - but I haven't sketched that as yet.
Anyway - it's probably best to move any further suggestions over onto the Challenge thread from now.
Again, thank you for the assistance!

Coyotemax
09-18-2010, 03:48 AM
In the meantime, this is a very quick and rough sketch idea for Mr Cloverfield giving the Brooklyn Bridge the old "once over" as an example of the sort of thing I was going to put on such a map...

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omg I almost peed my pants from laughing so hard, that's bloody brilliant!!