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sleuthy
10-08-2010, 11:33 PM
Can anyone tell me what kind of map this is? Or its location? Sorry I tried it again.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i283/cottonstowing/map.jpg

geamon
10-09-2010, 03:05 AM
Edit: I retract my statement I made, please put more thought into your posts please.

Jaxilon
10-09-2010, 03:09 AM
Looks like the image did not upload or post correctly.

Steel General
10-09-2010, 08:51 AM
Can't make out much of the detail...

sleuthy
10-09-2010, 10:31 AM
Can't make out much of the detail...

I know it doesnt have much detail. Any suggestions as to what the map represents at all would help. I thought it may be some sort of Bureau of Land Management map or something similar. Thanks

Aval Penworth
10-09-2010, 10:33 AM
Ahh? Why do you care?

Midgardsormr
10-09-2010, 12:41 PM
I doubt anyone's going to be able to decipher much about it from that image. It appears to depict a lake, and it has some shaded relief. The regular grid seems to indicate that it's a land use tool of some kind, but there's no way of knowing what the blue squares mean without being able to read the legend.

Some kind of context might help—where did the image come from? What was its purpose? That's an old car there, but the image is clearly newer than the car, based on its level of saturation and lack of grain. The unified colors and lighting indicate a professional image, which combined with the dutch angle and the push-pin marks suggest that it was perhaps part of an ad.

The colors also push me into thinking a desert setting, and the low-angle light indicates "magic hour": the time just before sunset or just after sunrise, a popular time for taking photographs. The light could have been created in a studio, though; there isn't enough information in the reflections to say one way or the other. In any case, given the way the map is displayed, it's certain that it is meant to communicate the the location of the car is the location depicted on the map. The rocks holding down the edge tell us that we're supposed to think it is windy, but if it really were, those little pebbles would do nothing to actually hold the map down.

There is some indication of tabs at the corners of the image, but since they're cropped, we can't tell what this picture is affixed to: a wall, a photo album, something else? The paper of the map is crumpled, but not yellowed, nor is there the sort of dirt that always seems to accumulate in maps stored in my car, so I suspect that it's actually a new map that was deliberately wrinkled to make it appear well-used. The car appears pristine—no sun damage, so it is likely stored in a garage, and it's clean, so it hasn't been driving on that dirt evident in the background. The reflection in the lower center area of the cropped frame is sharper than the highlights closer to the light source. We should be seeing a much stronger glint from the paint and chrome over there, so the car was probably treated with a dulling spray to prevent the highlights from overexposing. Also, whoever staged this shot was careful to make the pebbles weighting the map look casual, but the little pile of dirt only touches paper—it is well clear of the car's paint.

That's pretty well everything I can glean from the image.

sleuthy
10-09-2010, 01:14 PM
The photo of the 1964 Pontiac Lemans or GTO with the map on the hood is part of the clue in a trivia contest. I thought that maybe the members of this forum would be able to shed some light on the map itself. The rest of the clue reads, "There's Death Valley, Grand Canyon, Overland Trail, Yosemite Falls, even Route 66.
Sure, they are all found on a map, but it's possible to see them all in a single state.
Shed some light for us -- which state?" It seems easy but the questions/clues are often very tricky.

Crayons
10-09-2010, 01:28 PM
My first reaction was that it might be a map depicting allocation plots for oil drilling/exploration. However, I suspect it may be a shooting zone map? It may not be desert. If that is a lake it has a very angular island in it!

EDIT: try looking at this site?
http://www.kmlers.com/montanahuntinglandownershipmap.html

EDIT2: I think the answer to your clue might be "In orbit" or "from space"

oh cripes

EDIT3: Bureau of Land Management Map, yes, but I don't think the map is important for the clue particularly?

Ascension
10-10-2010, 08:50 PM
Death Valley and Yosemite Falls are in southeastern California, Grand Canyon is in northwestern Arizona, and Route 66 goes from Chicago to Los Angeles south of the Grand Canyon...you could probably fly one of the ufo's out of area 51 or maybe a hot air balloon out of Vegas and go straight up in the air and see all of these if you go high enough. Overland Trail goes from Atchinson KS to Salt Lake City UT were it merged with the California Trail to go through Nevada and cross the Sierra Madres. My first guess would be that you could see all of these from a place of elevation over Las Vegas...like really high elevation as in a plane or satellite. Seems a lil wonky so it's probably something like "a state of orbit" or something like that. Or maybe there's a river around there that you could kayak down and cross by these places. Lake Mead is near this area but the map doesn't show Lake Mead. Since there's a car I would guess the Interstate (as in highway).

rdanhenry
10-11-2010, 04:39 AM
You could see all of them in a drunken state... could be some sort of play on the different meanings of state. Also, they might not be the most famous places by those names, at least some of them. I thought of this because my parents recently went to Yellowstone and saw the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone. You might try disambiguation pages on Wikipedia for a start. For example, in addition to the most famous Death Valley in California, there's also a couple of stadiums and a section of freeway with that nickname. Plus a couple of films, which could be seen anywhere.

sleuthy
10-14-2010, 12:03 AM
So I guess you dont know where tf the map is either.

Crayons
10-14-2010, 12:45 AM
Unless you have a higher resolution version of that image I can't see any way of extracting where it is a map of. I've worked in image processing and unlike the "magical" capabilities evinced by programs like CSI, there is a limit to how much data you can extract!
The creators of this triva thing can't imagine that anyone will recognise the place itself so if there's a clue there, it's bigger than that.
The only thing I can postulate is that if this is a BLM map then the colour coding seems to indicate that most of this map looks like "Indian Reservation".
Does that lead to something? Are all these locations inside Indian Reservations or go through them?

Crayons
10-15-2010, 11:54 PM
Bah!!!
South Dakota.
The clue was about shedding light. They are all names of rooms in the Wind Cave system.
http://www.nps.gov/archive/wica/Room_Name.htm