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Archmagician
11-30-2007, 01:48 AM
Hello All!

I just got done typing this incredibly long intro when I got a "must include post icon" and LOST it all! *cry*

Anyway, the gist of it was:
Currently working on a novel - will need a few maps for that
Roleplaying since 1983 - Currently running a PBeM (it hasnt started yet) need maps! If you are curious or want to join here is a link to the site:
http://pbem1.reynoldslive.com/(S(yvhhzd550u444s55xaiz5l55))/MainPage.ashx

Anyway, I joined this board some time ago, and I have been lurking. You guys are the BOMB when it comes to map making (I am not Worthy!). I would love to get better at making maps.

Tools: I own Photoshop, Dundjinni, and CC3 (plus many add ons).

My current task, to create maps for my PBeM. I am seriously struggling with this. Here is my first attempt at a Forest Map for a Wood Elf Community: Oil Lantern Glade

The problem with this map is the forest floor. Argh that thing is uuugly! I realize that I need to do the floor in photoshop. So I tried attempting that in Grimroots Grove, but the problem I ran into, is that Dundjinni doesnt appear to let you import a jpg (like as a floor map). I think they made that product around selling Artpacks. ;)

So I tried exporting it and using a color grab to grab the white and delete it, but I am not having much luck here. There is always a bit of color left around the objects. I have *some* photoshop skills but they are weak.

I tried following that AWESOME gimp tutorial on here, but it doesnt always translate well for this noob in Photoshop.

What I would really like to do is have a kind of splotchy floor effect, with the use of a bump map to give it some "rough" feel. Now THAT would be awesome. Anyway, I will keep reading and posting as this site kicks ass!!

thanks for tolerating my Tolstoyish like intro (Hope this one makes it!!!)

Eilathen
11-30-2007, 06:26 AM
Welcome, Archmagician

I am sure you will find a lot of useful info and help on this forum. It is a very friendly and helpful bunch of people :)

Have fun

Eilathen

P.S.: Tell us a bit about your novel. What is it about?

ravells
11-30-2007, 07:38 AM
Welcome to the Guild, Archmagician!

Check out the seamless fills thread here (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=724) . I think you may find something close to what you are looking for to use for your forest floor. Unfortunately I don't use dunjinni, so I can't help there.

Are you going for any particular 'look' with your maps?

jaerdaph
11-30-2007, 11:28 AM
Welcome, Archmagician! Glad to have you here. :)

Quick question: Do you buy CC3 products to use the PNG artwork in Dundjinni, or do you use both programs for mapping?

Archmagician
11-30-2007, 11:28 AM
Eilathen:
The plot of my Novel is about a warrior race of dwarves. I hate to reveal too much, I would rather have you read it. :P

Ravells:
I am not going for a particular look per se, I just want it to look nice!

Jaerdaph:
I use both. Even though I am an expert in Autocad (I used to teach it at the college level), I still find CC3 a bit diffiult to use. In Autocad, the default mode is "select" so if I drag a window across the screen I automatically select multiple objects in my CAD drawing. This is not so for CC3 and I always find myself battling this when trying to select objects. The interface is just bizarre if you ask me. I really love the look at feel you get with Photoshop effects like that outstanding tutorial you have on this website.

I bought CC3 because I am sure I will use it for something. Perhaps City mapping, maybe some regional maps. I dont know as I havent really taken the time and effort to get into mapping.


I was thinking that perhaps I should start a thread where I work on one of my PBeM maps and I ask questions about how to acheive certain effects, maybe we can tag this as, a good guide for noobs, since my questions will be fairly basic and ones that many other beginners might ask.

RobA
11-30-2007, 11:38 AM
Welcome -

Have you posted the importing image question at the DJ forum? they are very active there...

and as a side not, I think you have enlarged some of your trees too much - they are intensely pixelated.

-Rob A>

Archmagician
11-30-2007, 11:54 AM
Good idea Rob!

Jaerdaph:
Dutch Kills, NY? Hmm is that near Astoria? I was born in Inwood, Queens.

NeonKnight
11-30-2007, 12:25 PM
Welcome Arch-mage!

Pick up a tankard and gather round the table. There are plenty of maps n the scroll tubes about the chamber to view!

RPMiller
11-30-2007, 01:13 PM
Archmagician, where did you find the picture of the Grimroots Grove? Was it from the Dundjinni forums? Can you give me a link?

pyrandon
11-30-2007, 02:03 PM
Welcome! I'm so glad you found us and are already posting a map! That's great.



I was thinking that perhaps I should start a thread where I work on one of my PBeM maps and I ask questions about how to acheive certain effects, ...

I think this is an excellent idea! I encourage you to repost under one of the WIP threads and ask specific questions. I have a few ideas in PS that may help, but I stopped using Dundjinni a couple years ago so will be no help there.

Once again, welcome!

jaerdaph
11-30-2007, 02:16 PM
Dutch Kills, NY? Hmm is that near Astoria? I was born in Inwood, Queens.

QUEENS IN THE HOUSE - REPRESENT Y'ALL! :D

Yeah, Dutch Kills is a little triangle area between Astoria, Long Island City and Sunnyside. The local realtors have taken it upon themselves to re-designate our community as Astoria to push their listings because Astoria is *the* hotspot to live outside of Manhattan right now. I'm just trying to do a little "historical preservation" of a great neighborhood. :)

If you don't mind me asking, where are you located now?

Archmagician
11-30-2007, 02:59 PM
Archmagician, where did you find the picture of the Grimroots Grove? Was it from the Dundjinni forums? Can you give me a link?

Nowhere! I created it. I simply dragged a few artpack objects from dundjinni and dragged them onto the screen. I also created the Oil Lantern Glade from scratch too. Neither are very impressive. :P



I think this is an excellent idea! I encourage you to repost under one of the WIP threads and ask specific questions. I have a few ideas in PS that may help, but I stopped using Dundjinni a couple years ago so will be no help there.
Yes it is! Since you are doing away with the WIP forums I will start it on its own respective forums. I guess city maps since that is the closest match in regional scope.



If you don't mind me asking, where are you located now?
Right now I am in Virignina for work, but I spend my time either in Southern California or Phoenix. In one week I will be in London getting the Led Out for the Led Zeppelin Reunion!
And if I say to you tomorrow. Take my hand, child, come with me. It's to a castle I will take you, where what's to be, they say will be.

RPMiller
11-30-2007, 03:03 PM
Ah, ok. I was thinking you were trying to use that picture and add grass and such underneath it. Since you have the original symbols you can just rebuild it.

If you still have Grimroots Grove saved, you can export it as a PNG and it will have a transparent background. Then it is very simple to just drop in a forest floor texture on a layer underneath it and you are good to go.

pyrandon
11-30-2007, 04:29 PM
Yes it is! Since you are doing away with the WIP forums I will start it on its own respective forums. I guess city maps since that is the closest match in regional scope.

Yes, I meant those same threads; we have not done away with the WIP forum, we've just combined it with the others :) I look forward to seeing your post(s) there!

Midgardsormr
11-30-2007, 07:30 PM
I was thinking that perhaps I should start a thread where I work on one of my PBeM maps and I ask questions about how to acheive certain effects, maybe we can tag this as, a good guide for noobs, since my questions will be fairly basic and ones that many other beginners might ask.

Allow me to just echo the others and tell you that's an excellent idea. I did much the same with my first digital map (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=847), and I learned tons about both the tools and the art of mapmaking.

We don't seem to have a whole lot of Dunjinni users here, though. I guess they're largely satisfied by their own (quite nice) forums.

The Cartographist
11-30-2007, 07:36 PM
Archmagician - Welcome!

This is THE site to talk about, learn about, share, experiment, and succeed at generating brilliant maps. You've definitely come to the right place.

Archmagician
12-01-2007, 12:09 AM
Yes, I meant those same threads; we have not done away with the WIP forum, we've just combined it with the others :) I look forward to seeing your post(s) there!
Without a doubt I will do this. I am a sponge for you map gods to toy with! LOL


Allow me to just echo the others and tell you that's an excellent idea. I did much the same with my first digital map (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=847), and I learned tons about both the tools and the art of mapmaking.

We don't seem to have a whole lot of Dunjinni users here, though. I guess they're largely satisfied by their own (quite nice) forums.
Your map is really coming along! I am impressed at the difference between where you started and where you are at now, in only 8 pages of message threads!

Midgardsormr
12-01-2007, 01:33 AM
Thank you; I was also quite pleased. There are a couple of bits that did not turn out quite as well as they might have, but overall I think I hit pretty close to the center of the target with it. Many thanks once again to everyone who gave their input on it, especially Jaerdaph for helping me through my early struggles with the software.

Anyway, I'll do my best to make cogent comments for you, as was done for me.

Robbie
12-01-2007, 06:43 PM
Welcome aboard Archmagician...I'm glad to have ya here! I'm looking into the default post icon thing...