View Full Version : Object images used in WotC's VTT

11-21-2010, 12:46 AM
WotC unbelievably has a VTT in beta testing. The screen shot I saw included a number of images that I haven't seen before (neither here nor at profantasy, dundjinni, or elsewhere). I was wondering if anyone here was in the beta test group and knew more about the images used. Where they came from, how extensive the collection of images is, what license the images fall under, etc.

I don't play 4e and have no interest in using the VTT (although I'm glad to see they are finally producing one for those that have been looking forward to it), however, I would love to subscribe to the VTT long enough to absorb their image collection, if the license permits such for personal use.

11-21-2010, 01:22 AM
Here is an excerpt from the general Wizards license (emphases mine):

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Now the license for the VTT may be slightly more permissive, but there's not really any way to know until the product is finally released. If it ever is.

11-21-2010, 02:38 AM
sounds very interesting, they have basicly said nothing about the VTT after announcing it along with 4e, and never answered the many many questions about it - so I basicly thought they dropped the project. It would be great if they actually get it done :)
I however, doubt the licence will permit any use of their material for other than the VTT or perhaps printout for use in own games, but as Midgaardsormr says, we gotta wait and see. :)

11-21-2010, 03:56 AM
I think you have seen something related to this link (http://www.rpgrounds.com/), not sure though. I'll be honest though and say that I'm ambivalent about anything digital WotC produces aside from PDF content.

11-21-2010, 06:01 AM
I know the stuff they talked about creating had 3D characters - which you could pull from your character sheet, with options of changing just about anything and stuff like turning the hands to hold the weapon differently (they wrote that in Dragon), and the "early demo" they showed looked really cool. However, one has previously been dissapointed by the final product when any company promises something. :)

11-21-2010, 02:41 PM
Sorry, I should have posted a link (http://oldguygaming.com/wotc-dusts-off-vtt). I haven't seen much actual information but I do know that it is not 3D and will not, at least initially, link to CB or Compendium. Nor has a pricing structure been determined. Personally, I think they bought a VTT and are customizing it.

I'm hoping though that the license for the object images (bookcases, tables, etc) will be under a less restrictive license. As I understand the current license, It would not even allow a user-created map containing those pieces to be displayed on a website ("publicly displayed").

I'm hoping to start producing free battlemaps for download and can always use more artwork. I have CSUAC, SMAC, and a great deal more but does anyone ever have enough? :)

Mark Oliva
11-21-2010, 10:50 PM
For those who want to look at screen shots of the VTT, go to http://www.enworld.org/index.php?page=news and page down to last Thursday's news.

11-21-2010, 11:20 PM
Good thing they only gave one screen shot so that I could not see much of what they have. Don't they get that what they announced previously for the VTT was a flop. Release a good product or when you announce something show the backing necessary to convince players it's a good product to invest in, I'll rephrase my ambivalence.

Mark Oliva
11-23-2010, 11:11 PM
Critical hits now has some in-depth information on VTT and a number of screen shots at:


11-23-2010, 11:30 PM
Anyone know if this will just be specific to D&D or will other rpgs work on it as well? I imagine it'll only run their own stuff but I figure I may as well ask.

11-24-2010, 02:18 AM
I think they're saying that the rules-stuff they supply is for 4e, but the functionalities can be used for what-ever. But probably not worth guessing till its final. :)

EDIT: looks like they support all versions all the way back to 1 :)

Mark Oliva
11-24-2010, 11:20 PM
Anyone know if this will just be specific to D&D or will other rpgs work on it as well? I imagine it'll only run their own stuff but I figure I may as well ask.

All the material I've seen to date suggests that it will be a pure D&D 4E product (until, of course, they put out 5E).

11-25-2010, 04:32 PM
Well.... the site you linked to seems to show that they support all previous D&D versions as well as possibly other game systems. Look at the second screenshot....

11-26-2010, 02:49 AM
yep.. and integrated voip is cool too.. with voice changers... hehe... sounds like fun. Lets just hope the pricing will be fun too. It would be just like wizards to stick a too heavy price on it, and forget that it has to compete with fantasy grounds and maptools. But then again, not all know those exists.
I do hope they'll add functions for importing characters and monsters before launching, cause thats really something that would help me choose :)
I'd of course prefer it just to be a part of D&D Insider since I allready pay for that :)