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RPMiller
12-22-2007, 09:18 PM
Now that I have a tablet I've decided to go back to an old project that I shelved long ago. This was the campaign world for my old GURPS campaign. The game ran for about 3 years and the players were able to cover a lot of ground. The setting is Fantasy, but there are a lot of scifi elements mixed in as well as the players began to discover when they encountered their first robot guardian and later delved deep into a subterranean city that had been buried millennia ago.

I originally created the world using Civilization of all things and its built in map editor. I don't even remember what version of Civ it was, but it was good enough for me to get the ball rolling. Then later I did a real hack job using PhotoShop back before I really knew how the tools worked and I didn't get very far. Still later I dropped it into CC2 and began tracing the coastlines and fractalizing them, but gave up due to lack of computer resources and it wasn't real easy using just a mouse. Plus I didn't like where it was heading.

This time around I used RobA's excellent random coastline tutorial (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=875) to get me started. I like how it really changed a lot of the shapes of the continents and feels more organic to me so I think this is now heading in the proper direction. I had to go back in and draw some of the elements that didn't make it into the threshold modified version, but thanks to being able to use a pen rather than a mouse this was a breeze.

So stage one is complete. The image I'm posting here is scaled down so that I can upload it and so that it won't suck bandwidth:

ravells
12-22-2007, 10:12 PM
Enjoy the tablet!

RPMiller
12-22-2007, 10:47 PM
Just learned from a terrible mistake... Before you edge trace, save the layer to make coloring of the land and sea easier.

I'm going to go back and redo the clouds and threshold. Otherwise I'll be coloring for days.

mmmmmpig
12-22-2007, 11:37 PM
Before you do anything globally to a layer, make a copy of that layer. only delete after you are satisfied.

I have deleted waaaay too many things that I shouldn't have in my days.

RPMiller
12-23-2007, 01:59 AM
Yup, I know the rule very well. Unfortunately I didn't think far enough ahead; however, I had a serious save on what I thought was an error. It turned out that my selecting was leaking through an area that I had modified and didn't go back and seal up. I found the leak, sealed it and was able to move forward and finish up the layers of colors.

Up next this is essentially a flat of the land and water. Flatting in coloring lingo is applying a solid color to each entity that you will be working with later to make it easier to select and mask of. As I move forward I'll be flatting various terrain types and such and these separate layers will make modifications easier and faster later.

At this point I'm going to stop for the night and post up the horrendously colored map. To quote a great movie: "Watch your eyes!" "Too late"

Midgardsormr
12-23-2007, 10:47 AM
I like the level of detail you're putting into your posts. Keep it up; I'm anticipating learning a lot!

mmmmmpig
12-23-2007, 08:15 PM
what a wonderful horrendously colored map.

I am interested to see this progress.

Redrobes
12-23-2007, 08:33 PM
There is a free tool that can gen up this sort of stuff really quickly. It also has a similarly garish color scheme !

http://www.viewing.ltd.uk/cgi-bin/viewingdale.pl?category=instant_islands

You could clip bits of these islands in. There's zillions to choose from. It also dumps out a rough height field for them too if thats interesting to you.

NeonKnight
12-24-2007, 04:19 PM
I for one, am looking forward to a better colored map as well. As it stands, with only two colors I see, a Teddy Bear, a Bird-thing, and a Cat/Dog thing. :(

Gamerprinter
12-24-2007, 04:42 PM
I saw the bird too, but maybe the "great primal animal gods" were involved in this world's creation mythos, but only those with the greatness to view the land from above the sky can see evidence.

Where do you separate the geologic from the philosophic?

I'm trying to defend you, RP... :P

pyrandon
12-24-2007, 10:55 PM
Hee hee--that's hilarious! I did not see it until pointed out. Now, of course, I cannot NOT see it.

But then again, I live in Michigan--the "mitten" state... I wish we had something as cool as a bird.

*sigh*

aeronox
12-26-2007, 02:14 AM
I also see a flattened mouse, a goose, and a leaping camel.

RPMiller
12-30-2007, 04:47 PM
ROFL!!

Thanks everyone! Somehow this holiday season has found me frantically busy; much to my chagrin. I haven't been able to do a thing on the computer other than a couple quick log ins and then I was off and running again. Hopefully tomorrow I'll have a full day to devote to this.


I like the level of detail you're putting into your posts. Keep it up; I'm anticipating learning a lot!

No promises, but I'll try my best.


what a wonderful horrendously colored map.

I am interested to see this progress.

Hehehe... believe it or not the color choices were on purpose. More about that later.


I for one, am looking forward to a better colored map as well. As it stands, with only two colors I see, a Teddy Bear, a Bird-thing, and a Cat/Dog thing. :(

Whoa!! You won't believe this, but where you pointed out the Cat/Dog thing is exactly where the party first encountered such a creature. It wasn't what you were thinking though. These are puma looking creatures with a wolf's snout, mouth, ears and tail. The players took to calling them catdogs because no one knew their actual names (all original creations on my part).


I saw the bird too, but maybe the "great primal animal gods" were involved in this world's creation mythos, but only those with the greatness to view the land from above the sky can see evidence.

Where do you separate the geologic from the philosophic?

I'm trying to defend you, RP... :P

Thanks GP! :D Actually that comment isn't too far from the mythology of the world. Of course it is just myth. In reality this world underwent some pretty incredible changes, and as you'll eventually see isn't even a typical planet as one would suspect. I'll have to keep you in suspense about that until later though.

Now I have to run off again as we have guests arriving soon.

RPMiller
01-02-2008, 12:52 AM
Ok, I was able to squeeze a little more time in on this.

At this point it should be noted that what you are seeing are actually solid colors that fill the screen in the form of color layers. A layer mask has been added to create the land formations. This serves two functions. The first is that I can quickly and easily change the color/fill/texture of the land and non-destructively change the land shapes and such as the original land formation is saved as an alpha channel that can be reapplied if needed.

I have now added in the tectonic plates and begun indicating the direction of the plates' movement as indicated by the red arrows. These plates will help form the justification for various mountain ranges as well as volcanic ranges. There are three types of plate interactions so you should eventually see all of them scattered about the map. I won't go into plate tectonics as there are a myriad of sites that explain them and frankly I don't have the kind of time it would take to explain them all.

Anyway, once the plate movement is finished the next step will be to start putting the land features which will start with mountains. Once those are in place I'll go back and address sea and wind currents to establish the different types of climates that will be scattered over the planet.

mmmmmpig
01-02-2008, 09:40 AM
I like the process that you are working on. Might I suggest a small edit on your plate features? the dark green plate and the purple plate. I think it would be better to make the plate boundary happen a bit further to the north where that land form is it's largest, kind of cutting through that bay. then you could make a gigantic mountain range there.

RPMiller
01-02-2008, 10:59 AM
Are you referring to the bottom of the map purple and green? The interesting thing about plate tectonics is that mountains can actually rise hundreds of miles away from the edge of the plate as they slide under/over each other this is often the result of the kind of plates they are. You frequently see it with an oceanic plate sliding under a continental plate as the hotter plate causes the colder to "bubble" more. You see this along the western edge of the Americas and in southern Europe. You'll see a similar rise in exactly that area that you are pointing out as well as along the western edge of the central continent (the one in pale yellow). Of course if you have really old continental plates slamming hard against each other such as is the case with the Himalayas you get a similar effect. These times of mountains tend to be very 'craggy' and rough with sudden vertical rises and very little volcanic activity.

mmmmmpig
01-03-2008, 12:19 AM
I was actually thinking about the Indian subcontinent slamming into Asia. That continent could have your super elevated mountain range, (roof of the world, godhome, etc...)

RPMiller
01-03-2008, 12:32 AM
Ah, right. Actually the tallest mountains are at the top of the center continent where all the plates have smashed together and warped the land into almost a whirlpool of land with that large inland sea in its center.