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Gidde
02-12-2011, 03:34 PM
Well, I wasn't going to bother the CG folks with this, but if GP, geamon, and Ravs can do it I guess I can too. Plus, I can't think of any group of folks whose opinions on this kind of thing I value more.

So here is the current logo I have going for studiogidde.com, which is bought and built (mostly), I'm just waiting for some Outside Employment paperwork to go through at the day job.

It's been (quite literally, unfortunately) giving me headaches for days. The problem is that I'm going to be marketing both my fonts and my maps on one site, and I can't seem to get across both ideas in the logo. It also means I'd like to stay away from using fonts I haven't created myself.

The current thumbnail (such that it is) is my avatar atm, and this is the full size logo that's on the page (by itself and in context):

jtougas
02-12-2011, 03:44 PM
I like it Gidde. I think it conveys what you are trying to accomplish quite well :)

ravells
02-12-2011, 03:49 PM
Oh my word, this looks fantastic! (would you like to design my website too?)

Do you have / need a vector equivalent of your logo? You know, when they have to put it up in 30 foot high billboards, or paste it to the sides of aircraft?

I really like the creamy / ivory colours as your background and the way you've laid the menu out to the right.

Gidde
02-12-2011, 03:58 PM
Thanks for the encouragement, guys! I'm glad I posted. I was really about to chuck the whole thing (well, the logo anyway; I rather like the site design) and start over.


Do you have / need a vector equivalent of your logo? You know, when they have to put it up in 30 foot high billboards, or paste it to the sides of aircraft?

I just laughed so hard at this my aching head tried to explode. To answer your question, I do have the writing vectorised, as it's 2 of my fonts-in-progress rather than drawn from scratch. The compass rose, alas, is raster only, to its detriment (thank goodness, the original is like 2000px). I played a bit with making it a font glyph today, but it turned out to be much more work than I was willing to do at the time. ;) As to need, it's something I'll have to do eventually; as you can see, the little facebook thingie is a shrunk-down section of the logo and looks like absolute rubbish. :( So I've got to do something that scales for that, and for my avatar here, I think.

As for designing a website, I'd rather teach a man to fish, but I'd be happy to help you build something, Ravs. PM me if you want to work on it.

torstan
02-12-2011, 04:03 PM
Looks great - I love that compass.

Any reason why it's Studio Gidde rather than Gidde Studio?

The green of the Studio is very close in tone to the compass - I'd lighten or darken it to separate it. I love the map background for the website - will that repeat or will it be a fixed background with the central panel scrolling over it?

Great work!

Jaxilon
02-12-2011, 04:05 PM
Rubbish is one of my favorite words :) Still, this isn't rubbish. I think it looks wonderful. It has the smoky or creamy feel that Immolate gets on his maps which I still haven't come close to. If you start up a web tutorial series I'll join as well :)

ravells
02-12-2011, 04:09 PM
As for designing a website, I'd rather teach a man to fish, but I'd be happy to help you build something, Ravs. PM me if you want to work on it.

I will! You will probably regret this offer when you find out how illiterate I am when it comes to HTML and cascading waterfalls or whatever they call them.

Gidde
02-12-2011, 04:10 PM
Thanks for the feedback, Torstan!

-- On the name: I'm not sure. studioGidde just sounded better to me, must be all the years of French culture I got steeped in as a child which puts the noun before the owner.
-- On the green: I agree. I've spent *countless* hours trying to get that green right and failing. I'll try again ...
-- On the background: Neither. Took me the better part of last weekend to get it to work, but it's actually stuck to the bottom corner of the page, so if you size the window or the content grows, it will still be right there in the bottom corner of the actual content.

ravells
02-12-2011, 04:11 PM
Studio Ghibli is one of my favourite Japanese animation houses....if you haven't seen 'Grave of the Fireflies' or 'Kiki's delivery service' you've really missed out. I liked Gidde's choice cos it had that resonance.

Gidde
02-12-2011, 04:14 PM
Eek, some cross posts happened there. I'll think about a web design tutorial; I've had to do a couple of workshops at the day job, as well (which is why you don't see Web Design as one of the things my website is promoting; too close to what I do at the day job) and I may be able to kill more than one bird with a proverbial stone.

In the meantime, for anyone who thinks a web page's stylesheet has anything to do with a waterfall (;)), w3schools.com is FANTASTIC. It's my go-to for reference when I need to dig down into HTML/CSS again, and it's got fantastic tutorials as well.

Gidde
02-12-2011, 04:31 PM
And, here's a tack I hadn't tried with the green ... instead of medium with light outline, tried light with a dark outline. Better?

waldronate
02-12-2011, 04:33 PM
I think there ought to be a lightbulb or candle on there somewhere. Then it would be "Gidde with de'light". Or maybe not.

ravells
02-12-2011, 04:42 PM
Groannnn!!!!

RobA
02-12-2011, 04:48 PM
And, here's a tack I hadn't tried with the green ... instead of medium with light outline, tried light with a dark outline. Better?

I think that nails it!

-Rob A>

Gidde
02-12-2011, 04:53 PM
@waldronate: lol. (Yes, I really do laugh at bad puns. My husband loves me for this.)

@robA: Thanks!!

@Jax/Ravs: Guys, if you really want to build websites, I can tell you this right now: Mock up the most detailed faux website you can get to in PS/Gimp/Whatever. Size it at around 800x500 (we can make it stretch to larger resolutions when we do the coding). Then we'll have something to work with and I can help you make it work in browsers. Oh ... and put EVERY SINGLE ELEMENT on a separate layer.

ravells
02-12-2011, 04:56 PM
Kewl, thanks Gidde. I'll do that!

If I'm making it in vector do I still need every element on a single layer?

Gidde
02-12-2011, 04:59 PM
Nope, because that's the way vector works already (each is an object). The idea is that you want to be able to isolate each object into a separate .png file when you go to do the coding.

Edit: As an example, on the website above, the parchment is a file, but each map-overlay corner is its own file or it wouldn't work. So I really do mean every single element, don't merge ANYTHING.

ravells
02-12-2011, 05:21 PM
No worries, I can do that.

Tell me when we get to the cascading waterfalls....I'll bring my swimming trunks!

Ascension
02-12-2011, 05:37 PM
What you want to do is try your idea on lots of different things to see how it works on varied images. As to the actual logo, is it the compass with SG or is it the background as well? I say this because it works fine as a business card or web header as it is right now...I might brighten the dark red and make the green a bit more vivid and less muted, though. I understand the color theme you're going for but maybe just a bit brighter red and less muted green. If this is going to be a logo you may have to swap colors out entirely as the won't look the same without that map background.

Gidde
02-12-2011, 05:43 PM
Yeah, I found that out when I tried to make the smaller version for my avatar. I think the "thumbnail" version (which will be just the compass and SG I think) needs to be completely redone in vector. In the meantime, I've been grabbing it with the map background so I had *something* that didn't look horrid. Well, it still does look horrid, but it looks less horrid than it did when I lost the map background.

As for the colors --- I actually tried that combo, and it ended up looking like Christmas invaded my page :( I'll have to play with the scheme more.

Ascension
02-12-2011, 06:07 PM
Yeah, that's why I never use opposite colors, especially red/green...too Christmasy. Blue/orange and purple/yellow look too much like something you would see on a SeaDoo, dirt bike, or monster truck. Did you try the split complements? They only work a little better, shrug. Red with blue-green or yellow-green. Or Green with yellow-orange or red-orange. I might try an amber or tan with that red...won't look good on antique maps, though.

Gidde
02-12-2011, 06:19 PM
Lol ... sometimes I wish my sister had never given me her little crash course in color theory. That wine is probably my favorite color in the spectrum, but as its complement is green, I'm ALWAYS fighting the christmas look. Maybe I should toss her advice out the window and try blue. ;)

I suppose I could go monochromatic (other than the tan of the parchment), and get rid of the green altogether. Maybe I'll give that a try.

tilt
02-13-2011, 02:57 AM
a bit late to the thread I see... looking good Gidde, I like GiddeHand and good idea with releasing the font with more stuff in it commercially :) ... when one lives in a little country like me AND a country that has special characters (don't know if they show up here) - I often run in in fonts that don't support my language. I had some problems when doing Disney stuff since the originals of course came from the US and the designers there often used "small" fonts that didn't featured our characters, which had me using time finding a font looking similar or trying to handdraw a character to fit the existing one. And with todays open type there really are no excuses left for not catering to all (other than not wanting to bother). The left bracket [ seems a little heavy? :)
I like look of the upcomming webpage nice colors and neat background :) ... looking forward to seing it online. Concerning the logo I like the overall composition, the compass, the heavy and light text - however the colors is not really fiiting in my humble opinion, the green is to weak - although the black line helps and the maroon is to dark (although I really like it). And you'll have a hard time placing them everytime because they are so different so one of them will always stick out (or dissapear). I like the compass but you might wanna make a more stilized/cleaner version for when that is needed. I've made a ton of logoes over the years and the very complex ones often poses complex problems - especially in print. And make sure your colors work in CMYK as well :)
Good luck with your website and for those guys who are planning to make their own - try out Wordpress or Joomla for size - they are easy to use (especially Wordpress) and you can do almost anything with them graphicly - either by your self, by adding a template (free or commercial) or by making your own design in photoshop (or the like) and making someone Wordpressify it for you (I know some guys in Manilla) :)

Steel General
02-13-2011, 08:36 AM
I like it as well. But I think the script 'Gidde' gets a bit lost.

For the longest time I've wanted to do something with "Temporal Fugue Productions" (or something similar), but have yet to come up with anything worthwhile.

Gidde
02-14-2011, 05:27 PM
Thanks for the suggestions & comments, tilt & SG :)

So I took them all to heart. Since the green was giving me nightmares, I went back to the color scheme tool and started with my wine color, realized that a triad scheme gives me the yellow base of the parchment and a nice pretty blue. And got rid of the green. As per tilt's suggestion and in response to SG's observation I brightened and increased the saturation of both colors, along with toning down the contrast on the compass in order to make the words pop a little more.

Better? Worse? Should I chuck it and start over after all?

ravells
02-14-2011, 06:28 PM
I really like the blue, it stands out a lot more. I think it's lovely.

tilt
02-15-2011, 03:52 AM
Looks way better now :)

Steel General
02-15-2011, 01:23 PM
Looks way better now :)

What he said...

pindercarl
02-15-2011, 10:37 PM
I'd swap the blue and the wine colors. Right now, it reads "STUDIO gidde" when you want it to say "studio GIDDE."