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thelettuceman
01-24-2008, 01:44 PM
I guess ths is the obligatory "Hallo World" post here, since I'm new. I've been doodling with maps and such on pencil for years, since I generally started playing D&D. Its difficult for me to translate that to any form of image on my computer, since I seem to be functionally illiterate when it comes to mapmaking software/drawing on the computer.

I have access to Photoshop 7 and CC3, but I choose not to have CC3 installed on the computer because I'm not too happy with how it looks. I'm looking for any help on how to get started to make decent, realistic maps.

I also want to say how awesome the work on this site is. I feel a bit overwhelmed just being here. :|

RPMiller
01-24-2008, 01:47 PM
Welcome thelettuceman! No need to feel overwhelmed, just take it in small steps and ask lots of questions. :) There are some great CC3 users here so poke around in the WIP and Finished Maps fora to see what others are doing with it. As for the realistic maps, are you looking for photorealism or just the layout to be realistic?

pyrandon
01-24-2008, 01:59 PM
Hi, "TLM" (The Lettuce Man) :) So glad you found us. I agree with RP--maybe find a few maps you admire, then take a shot at your own maps & ask the Guild "How can I make my map look more like this map?"

Also, while I'm a Photoshop user myself, don't count out CC3 completely--we have some users who can do wonderful things with it!

Glad you found us!

RobA
01-24-2008, 02:00 PM
Hi!

Welcome aboard!

-Rob A>

ravells
01-24-2008, 02:52 PM
Welcome to the Guild! Get stuck in and fire away with any questions you have!

Redrobes
01-24-2008, 05:51 PM
Hey, scan or photo some of the pencil / pen maps too. Its not exclusively digital here is it ? Or use some of the features of the digital tools most like pens if thats what your good at. I love pen and ink maps.

thelettuceman
01-25-2008, 02:03 AM
Welcome thelettuceman! No need to feel overwhelmed, just take it in small steps and ask lots of questions. :) There are some great CC3 users here so poke around in the WIP and Finished Maps fora to see what others are doing with it. As for the realistic maps, are you looking for photorealism or just the layout to be realistic?

Well, for the "realistic maps", I'd like to do something along the lines of this: http://www.nativeflame.com/users/DansStuff/Fathusra_Wilds.jpg from the Wizards Forum Epic Campaign Maps thread. Otherwise, I'd just like a decent map generated. It doesn't have to be photorealistic, I'd just like to have a map that I can develop myself, with the tools I have, that I'd like.

ravells
01-25-2008, 06:56 AM
Wow, that example is a beauty.

RPMiller
01-25-2008, 10:17 AM
I believe we have at least one member that produces maps that look similar to that. It is hard to tell what application is being used though. That is a pretty slick looking map.

ego093
01-25-2008, 11:42 AM
Hey LettuceMan! That map is definitely something to shoot for, and I think doable with a little practice and a lot of experimentation with different applications. The mountain rendering looks like a fractal landscape generator while everything else seems to be Photoshop with some layer styles. Check around on the forums here and you'll see examples of both those techniques.

Gamerprinter
01-25-2008, 12:41 PM
The colors in this map reminds of Torq's October Challenge Map, style too. Torq used GIMP, so I imagine Photoshop would be just fine to create maps like this. Some of the mountains look like fractal generated mountains, while some of it just look like brush strokes with shadowing applied. I see embossed/pillowed river banks also similar to Torq's map.

I like the rivers and lakes in this map - nice job on this one.

You might consider downloading GIMP as this is free and their are many great tutorials here for GIMP. (Since GIMP is very much like PS, you should catch on fairly fast - even going back to PS and trying similar techniques there.)

Look at the various fractal noise generators to create your mountains. 8)

pyrandon
01-25-2008, 12:47 PM
I think, like Gameprinter, that this could readily be created in GIMP (or Photoshop). In fact, I'll bet RobA's tutorial (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=1142) basically shows the same techniques that could be used to create it; although the example you provided shows a larger region, so all the details are on the map are smaller, I see basically the same system at work.

My suggestion would be to go through Rob's tutorial as written, than play with it to make the same sort of map you've linked. I don't see it being to difficult to emulate.

Good luck!

GlennZilla
01-25-2008, 02:00 PM
I have been working out a style for myself to use in Photoshop with a goal similar to this map.

It looks like the mountians are a combination of displacement mapping (Either with the displace filter or a bevel layer blending style) with the "metal landscape" texture applied to another layer just above it.

I was stuck trying to get the forests to looke the way I wanted, and now I've got the idea.

I'll tinker a bit and see what I come up with.

RobA
01-25-2008, 05:50 PM
If you are willing, please document and describe the techniques when posting either a final map or a WIP.

-Rob A>

pyrandon
01-26-2008, 12:03 PM
Yes, Glen--share the wealth! :) :) :)

GlennZilla
01-28-2008, 12:13 PM
Just to let you know that I have not forgotten my promise, I have been working out a few kinks I found. More details and a WIP Thread should be coming in a day or two.