View Full Version : [Unpaid - Taken] HELP! Last minute request for help with Spelljammer spoof for April Fool's Day!

03-30-2011, 10:28 AM
Hey Everyone!

I'm putting together a website for a fictional product release as an April Fool's gag, and I could really use some help getting together some last few pieces to really knock this gag out of the park. I know this is very last minute (just two days till April 1st!) but my other avenues to get the maps I need fell through, so I'm hoping there might be someone here at the Cartographer's Guild who can help me out!

I'm looking for deckplans that emulate the original deckplan cards that came in the Spelljammer boxed set...basically maps for the interior layouts of the ships. I'll happily accept whatever I can get, but I had the idea of featuring one of the following:

1. Deckplans for the U.S.S. Enterprise. Yes...THAT Enterprise. :)

2. The TARDIS from Dr. Who -- you know, with deckplans that are bigger on the inside than on the exterior.

3. Deckplans for the interior of a Dalek.

4. A Canoe.

If anyone is able to help with this -- whether by providing one of the requested deckplans above or some other content -- I would be very thankful. Please e-mail me at: thesecretdm@gmail.com

Than you for reading this! I look forward to hearing from you!

03-30-2011, 12:05 PM
for USS Enterprise, see: http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?8317-Star-Trek-USS-Enterprise-NCC-1701
I am still working on this... but has been put on the back shelf for now. Feel free to use any of the pics you see.

03-30-2011, 12:39 PM
Wow -- those are perfect! What name should I credit for the work, and where should I link to if people want to see out the artist?

And thank you so much!

Would still love to have the other pics (like the canoe) -- but these are so great! A lifesaver! Thanks again!

03-30-2011, 01:44 PM
You can find some doctor who technical stuff here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/18644/The-Doctor-Who-Technical-Manual

03-30-2011, 02:14 PM
Here is your canoe


-Rob A>

03-30-2011, 02:55 PM
@Ravells -- thanks so much for the link -- I'll see if there's something I can use there...much appreciated!

@Rob A - WOW -- that canoe is made of winning! It's absolutely perfect! I owe you for that one...how would you like to be credited when the website goes live?

Thanks again -- that's just absolutely amazing!

03-30-2011, 03:57 PM
Knocked up a tardis deckplan for you! Do post up a link to your April Fool's website when you're done!

03-30-2011, 04:08 PM
@ Ravells: Wow -- that's incredible, too! This has been an amazingly successful day for this project...I really wasn't expecting this! I now know I'm coming right to cartographer's guild for all my mapping needs -- this community is amazing!

I love the pool! This is supremely excellent!

How would you like to be credited on the gag site, Ravells?

Thanks again, everyone!

03-30-2011, 04:15 PM
lol, just call me ravells. It was fun to do.

03-30-2011, 04:26 PM
@Rob A - WOW -- that canoe is made of winning! It's absolutely perfect! I owe you for that one...how would you like to be credited when the website goes live?

lol on the winning! If you are willing to, please credit Rob Antonishen @ http://www.cartocopia.com


-Rob A>

P.S. Is there an audience for this style of ship drawing?

03-30-2011, 04:41 PM
Sweet! I especially like the Enterprise blueprint. The Tardis is pretty funny too :)

Can't wait to see the gag site!

03-30-2011, 06:14 PM
Ravells, exactly which control room is this? It does not really look like any that I know. Of course, the third-seventh Dr control room always reminded me a bit of an octagonal padded room like in a sanitarium....hehe...It does not really remind me that of the current Dr's either in shape....anyhoooo

03-30-2011, 07:23 PM
Canoe and TARDIS both awesome.

03-30-2011, 11:34 PM
P.S. Is there an audience for this style of ship drawing?

Definitely -- even if it's just me -- I mean, even down to the names of the locations AND the "map scale" -- it was like you looked into my brain, saw exactly what I needed, and brought the thing into the world. If it weren't the 21st Century, I'd fear your magic. ;)

I seriously can't wait to share the gag site -- I wish I could tell you all about it now, but I can't risk spoiling it just yet -- but this has been an incredible amount of fun, and you guys have really helped bring it to the next level! Thank you again so much, everyone! You actually make this look easy.

Now if only I could get mock-up logos for other knock-off products...but I imagine the Cartographer's Guild is not the website to request fake logos. Oh well -- there's always NEXT April Fool's Day... ;)

Keep up the amazing, fantastic work, everyone -- you've definitely earned yourselves a new fan today!

--The Secret DM

03-31-2011, 03:23 AM
Ravells, exactly which control room is this? It does not really look like any that I know.

I did a quick web search of the inside of the Tardis and found nothing....so I kind of just winged it.

03-31-2011, 05:02 AM
throw in what logo you need and I might be able to make a quick fake one :)

03-31-2011, 08:34 AM
@ Tilt: Seriously? That would be amazing!

Here are the spoof titles. I'll just point out what they are a spoof of, even though they are probably obvious:

"Hot Desert Planet" (instead of Dark Sun)

"Gothicland" (instead of Ravenloft)

"REAL Magic: The Happening" (instead of, well...Magic: The Gathering)

I'll follow up tomorrow with the link to the spoof sites -- thanks again, everyone!

03-31-2011, 12:02 PM
well, I doubt I'll get the time to make all 3 - but here is the ravenloft one :)

03-31-2011, 12:19 PM
That's pretty cool, tilt!

03-31-2011, 02:00 PM
Wow -- thanks, Tilt! I greatly appreciate that! It looks awesome!

03-31-2011, 03:49 PM
glad you like it ...I've made the magic on as well.. but I've tried uploading it 10+ times now without succes...

03-31-2011, 04:11 PM
You can e-mail anything to me directly at thesecretdm at gmail dot com


03-31-2011, 04:33 PM
Here's Hot Desert Planet:


Only had time to change the text - might get to making the sun a sandy planet but don;t hold your breath ;)

-Rob A>

03-31-2011, 09:32 PM
P.S. Is there an audience for this style of ship drawing?

Definitely. That's the style I prefer for my sci-fi deck plans, in the rare instances that I play something like Traveler or Alternity. I don't often need battlemat-style deck plans with full color and textures.

03-31-2011, 09:52 PM
Maybe not canoes...but we'd use realistic ship plans in our various sci-fi games from time to time.

03-31-2011, 10:58 PM
OK - I had some time to make up a new hdp logo:


-Rob A>

03-31-2011, 11:09 PM
Oh hahaha -- that's awesome! Thanks again, Rob!

51 minutes to launch...

03-31-2011, 11:37 PM
I would totally use that canoe in an actual sci-fi game. It would really help round out the vehicle supplement.

04-01-2011, 12:39 AM
And we're live!

Check out www.magecrammer.com (http://www.magecrammer.com) for more!

Thanks everyone for all of your help! You guys are the best!

--The Secret DM

04-01-2011, 01:35 AM
lol, great website secretdm, and great artwork guys!

04-01-2011, 02:57 AM
Thanks! Couldn't have done it without the fine folks here at Cartographer's Guild! Amazing job!

04-01-2011, 04:39 AM
thats brilliant... great work :)

04-01-2011, 04:44 AM
LOL! Very good!

04-01-2011, 09:36 AM
Nice job!

-Rob A>

04-01-2011, 01:30 PM
thats really gonzo....

04-01-2011, 01:36 PM
Funny Funny stuff. Great Job :)

04-01-2011, 02:34 PM
Nice job, I love me some spoof website. Alos I enjoyed reading the What you need to play section. Very well done.

04-01-2011, 02:52 PM
Well done to everyone involved ;)

04-01-2011, 03:44 PM
Very nicely done. Love the disclaimers - and the logo work is brilliant.

04-01-2011, 04:42 PM
I want some of that Raspberry Jam, man. Damn, I can't get any.

04-01-2011, 06:41 PM
Haha wonderful site! It certainly looks professional :)

04-01-2011, 11:36 PM
I can't say thank you enough.

If someone had told me three weeks ago that I'd have a site like this put together, I would've laughed in their faces. Words cannot express my gratitude to everyone who contributed -- especially everyone here at The Cartographer's Guild -- the fact that so many fine artists were able to produce so much high quality product in such a short amount of time has me at a total loss of words.

Thank you very much for helping me take my goofy "magecrammer" idea and turning it into something that was truly spectacular.

If anyone would ever be interested collaborating on a project, I'd be happy to work with everyone here. Who knows? I may start poking around the rest of the forums, as well.

If you ever need anything or would like to work together, please don't hesitate to e-mail me at thesecretdm at gmail dot com.

Thanks again -- have a great weekend!

04-02-2011, 04:02 AM
you too - I hope the recipients of the joke enjoyed it :)

Big Mac
04-03-2011, 11:07 AM
Aha! Found you! :P

As one of the "victims" of this prank, I'm glad I have not logged onto the Cartographers' Guild in the last few days. Magecrammer has been a great suprise and bumping into this thread would have taken the shine off a brilliant joke. (And I say this as someone who doesn't like April Fool Jokes.)

Thanks to everyone here who made something (even the things that didn't get used).

P.S. Is there an audience for this style of ship drawing?

There certainly is an audience for this sort of ship drawing, Rob.

I am a big fan of Spelljammer (and have been for many years). Spelljammer was (and still is) a fantastic concept, but with it being such an unusual concept, it has been less easy than other campaign settings to find things that can fill in some of the gaps in the original product line.

I actually signed up with the Cartographers' Guild last year, because I think that the only way I'm going to get some of the stuff that I need is to learn how to make it myself. Here is my "hello" thread: Hi folks. I need to learn how to map the *entire* Spelljammer universe (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?12167). I was more focusing on working out how to create planetary maps there (because I've worked out from the blog of a professional RPG designer called Robert S. Conley that building a map of a planet makes it much easier to build the fanon content I want to create to dovetail with the TSR material). But ship maps (in the style you did) are also something that is really needed for Spelljammer fandom.

Spelljammer has lots of ships, but TSR never made all of the maps. In the original SJ boxed set alone, there are six groundling ships (Caravel, Cog, Drakkar, Drommond, Great Galley and Longship) where they give stats (a keel length and beam length and some nerdy SJ stuff) in Concordance of Arcane Space, but don't provide any description in Lorebook of the Void (or plans on ship cards). For the ships that Spelljammer does cover well (the ones that are designed by "spacefarers") TSR gives pictures and deck plans (for almost all of them) but then they have an "Other Configurations" section in Lorebook of the Void that talks about variant forms of the "standard" versions of these ships. TSR never made any deck plans for these "Other Configurations" and some of them are funky enough that the original deckplans do not do the job. Take the Hammership, for example. That can have "Multiple Turrets" (including weapon turrets on the bottom of the ship), "Greek Fire Projectors" (just a change of the front weapon - but you need to make or scan the deckplan to do that), "Heavy Hammerships" and "Armada Busters" (both mostly similar to the Multiple Turret version from a mapping point of view), "Lizard Man Crews" (same deck plans, but with a flooded gravity plane - I suppose that could be done with a photocopier and a blue highlighting pen), "Mind Flayer Crews" (same plans, but with the windows changed) and "Elven Crews" (the plans would again be unchanged).

I've also been speaking to a couple of the authors of HackJammer (the HackMaster version of Spelljammer) and he thinks that rather than the Hammership being a 60 ton ship that was exactly 250ft long in the keel and exactly 25 foot across its beam, there would be variations in sizes at different shipyards. (This idea also works around the fact that inconsistent TSR artwork shows Hammerships in different proportions - and even with a slightly different arrangement of the top deck and external parts.) Something like that would mean that the Multiple Turret idea could instead stretch the ship and provide space for a third weapon turret.

That sort of thing would mostly only help Spelljammer fans, but less funky looking ships (groundling ships to SJ fans) would be things that could be used by fans of any RPG setting based on the sea. Freeport is a good example of a setting based around a sea-port. I'm sure fans of that setting would love "normal" ships.

Anyhoo, what I'm getting at is: the answer to your question is: "yes" - there is an audience for this style of ship drawing. :oops: :D

04-03-2011, 03:39 PM
Awesome idea - and nicely executed, good job all!

05-19-2011, 12:47 PM
Thanks, and sorry it took me so long to reply... Life has been... Challenging to say the least.