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Djekspek
05-10-2011, 08:02 AM
I wanted to experiment with some things, and the challenge is great for that. Never done a political type of map and I had some ideas on using some special brushes for drawing/painting maps. So I need to find a way to combine handdrawn and a more stylistic approach. And then see if I can end up with a polished/label-readable combined thing... To be determined how I can visualize the nation map in a way that really reflects the nation (architecture, culture, history, etc...).. no clue yet but I'll get some ideas I hope...

ok, lots of bla bla... 1st version of the stylistic political approach (struggling with the labels as usual and I may add more details or maybe different city-icons per nation.... but not sure yet) , the nation that the map is actually about, will be handdrawn/painted in the middle.

cheers, DJ

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Ramah
05-10-2011, 10:41 AM
Looking great so far DJ. Can't wait to see more.
I'd love to be able to find the time to take part in this month's challenge, I really don't know how you guys manage it month in, month out. :S

RjBeals
05-10-2011, 10:50 AM
Awesome land shapes and borders. Did you make those up or use a real place for reference?

Sapiento
05-10-2011, 11:19 AM
Interesting idea, DJ.

Djekspek
05-11-2011, 06:22 PM
thanks guys, now for the first experiment fitting a handdrawn map into this... I'm content with how the nation map is working out using new brushes, some changed symbol shapes, and a changed color palette. Didnt get a great idea yet on how to visualize the 'essence of the nation', but maybe that'll come. Also not sure yet if these styles will merge ok, it still looks kind of odd... maybe needs more tinkering. think the 'glow' maybe better not going up but going horizaontal..... Hmm... lets see how this goes

And RJB, the landshape are made up so no real reference used, just sort of scribbled along...

cheers, DJ

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RecklessEnthusiasm
05-11-2011, 06:30 PM
Just gorgeous!

jtougas
05-11-2011, 06:40 PM
Thats really very nice. :)

Clercon
05-11-2011, 06:55 PM
That's looking great. Keep up the good work :-)

Ascension
05-11-2011, 07:05 PM
Since this challenge is just about one nation the others don't matter so much. So I'm thinking what if you took those rays shooting up and instead had them radiate from all around and then give them a perspective tweak so that they get smaller in the back (the current top).

Djekspek
05-11-2011, 08:04 PM
thanks, and thanks Ascension thats a good one, it may indeed give back the perspective that somehow is lost as the nation is a little more tilted then the map itself... cheers, DJ

RjBeals
05-11-2011, 08:38 PM
ah man... you went there did ya. okay okay.. I guess I taunted you. It's gorgeous DJ.

LonewandererD
05-12-2011, 05:27 AM
Abandon all hope ye who enter this competition, Djekspek is going to win this one. When I first saw the map I honestly just a little "meh". Now that I have seen the progress on the handrawn aspects of it I'm now more "holy crap". Don't know how you keep doing it but you've done it again DJ :)

-D-

Djekspek
05-14-2011, 06:16 PM
thanks guys for the praise, but there are loads of awesome entries so far, so lets just see how this goes... At least I'm having a lot of fun doing some new stuff :D .... Fighting at many fronts now... I did more tries to fit the nation into the map and this is the best effect so far, so I'll leave at this for now. Furthermore working on the handdrawn piece and trying to get clear labels on it. Also did the border based on some ornaments from old books, and decided to do a sort of 'washed' map effect on the overland map (just want a soft look to not distract from the nation map) for which I created some mountain and forest brushes....

So 'only left now' is a compass, some title, more handdrawn map stuff, and using my icons to complete the background map (maybe with extra abels but not sure yet)... but there is time still.

cheers, DJ

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jtougas
05-14-2011, 06:48 PM
Oof.. this is SO good. When will I ever learn.. :)

ravells
05-14-2011, 07:24 PM
Simply beautiful. It's like looking at a world in miniature (which is what I love about your maps). Using the heavy black strokes as borders was a genius idea, it seems counter-intuitive conceptually but when you see it in action it works really well.

Ascension
05-14-2011, 07:47 PM
The border is super cool, totally dig it. But it's dominating the more simple map. Save it for another, more detailed map, though.

eViLe_eAgLe
05-15-2011, 02:25 AM
*starts drooling* Amazing :]

Ramah
05-15-2011, 06:49 AM
I'd agree with Ascension. The map is fantastic but the border dominates it. Maybe if you removed the colouring from the silver bits so the whole thing was like the areas in the middle of the border.
Still, great stuff. :)

Steel General
05-15-2011, 09:37 AM
Stunning!!!

Djekspek
05-15-2011, 04:42 PM
Thanks guys. Ascension and Ramah, you are completely right on the over-the-top border so I tuned it down (didn't want to make a new one, but I think this should work better). Finished the handpainted stuff and added more icons in the back map (although it's a little too crowded now maybe). Also a title was added (I had an over the top title and created a non-fitting compass so i decided to just put in a title as text). And I gave the back countries a little more color. In general I'm happy, but there's something in the composition still nagging at me, maybe I should move the whole thing up (and maybe to the right) a bit or add something on the right side. hmm.. anyway, latest update. cheers, DJ

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jtougas
05-15-2011, 04:45 PM
As I said before this map is just amazing. The only thing that my eye catches as "off" is the title. The blue doesn't seem to fit the style of the map. Of course that is just my opinion. :)

Ascension
05-15-2011, 06:26 PM
Compositionally, it's left-of-center so you feel off balance. You could crop off some of the right side to bring the nation into the center, but I don't think it's a big deal because then it gets too static (boring). Also the darker top feels like a weight crushing down so you could balance that with some dark at the bottom. Yeah, the title needs a tweak. Frame looks awesome now.

Ramah
05-15-2011, 08:02 PM
Yup, border looks stunning now. I don't mind the colour of the map title, it seems to go well to me. But I guess it does look more "digital" than the rest of the map so kinda sticks out a little.

ravells
05-15-2011, 08:12 PM
the border is just spot on. I wasn't sure there was a problem with the old one until I saw how much better the new one is. Again, I just don't have the 'eye' that Ramah and Ascension have, (my eye for composition is particularly bad), but maybe the problem with this is that the main subject isn't quite within the 'rule of thirds'? Dunno.

Djekspek
05-16-2011, 09:26 AM
indeed, the focus point is off somehow. I checked it against fibonacci golden ratio, but I think it's more a combination of main subject size and it's location. I did a little crop and made the main subject relatively bigger. And indeed the dark shade in the higher half was wrong (I added it to give it more depth but it wasn't working as intended). Also added some more 'body' to the title. I think it's finished now but I may do some last tweaks and twists.

Anyway, all thanks very much for the comments/critique! cheers, DJ

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ravells
05-16-2011, 10:24 AM
That looks so much better! I love the Cartouche.

RjBeals
05-16-2011, 11:54 AM
man this guy is good.

Clercon
05-16-2011, 04:30 PM
Now I finally know how all the wrestlers that had to go up against Karelin felt.

ravells
05-16-2011, 06:38 PM
Count the medals, my friend! The thing I absolutely love about DJ's maps is that none of them are generic. They all have personality and character written all over them, not to mention the fact that they are beautifully drawn and there is a minimum or no filters used. The only other mapper I can think of that works in this way is Torstan (and his maps are as beautiful but in a different way). Both are mappers at the top of their game!

SilenBlade
05-16-2011, 06:44 PM
Awsome Job ! huh, I want to have souch talent in my hands :D

RjBeals
05-24-2011, 10:14 PM
I keep coming back to this map, and am just blown away.

Djekspek
05-25-2011, 02:34 PM
thanks guys!