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HandsomeRob
02-18-2008, 01:11 PM
I got a little bit burned out coming up with names for places in Jalaun (http://sorol.wikispaces.com/Jalaun), so I decided to move to the other side of Sorol and throw together a map of the Kingdom of Allal. I have another map in progress (about 75% done) for Jalaun, and then the next map I do I plan on walking through step-by-step here if people are interested. It would be a sort of WIP/tutorial combo.

Also, the KML (http://sorol.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/Sorol.kml) has been updated.

Enjoy!
-Rob

Gamerprinter
02-18-2008, 02:59 PM
Oh, HandsomeRob, I'd love to see a step-by-step tutorial on your techniques for creating your maps! Please do.

And I'd go nuts trying to come up with all the derivations of "India" place names, you've done so far. :P

alucard339
02-18-2008, 08:41 PM
It's a really good looking map, but IMHO it could use some ocean definition : either just coloration between the low and high sea or a whole floor of derivation. Something like this attach, but better looking.

Yandor
02-18-2008, 10:06 PM
hehe I agree Alucard thats just me though, but the thing is, its an Atlas styled map, I've never seen an atlas map with ocean/sea/lake definition, they are all that blue/green color and very much flat...

pyrandon
02-18-2008, 10:23 PM
...and then the next map I do I plan on walking through step-by-step here if people are interested. It would be a sort of WIP/tutorial combo.

Forgive my rudeness, but one of the top cartographers here asks if anyone is interested in seeing a tutorial/walk-thru of some of the most praiseworthy maps in Guild history???? That's just a downright stupid question, Rob!! ;)

Do it, DO IT NOW!

ravells
02-19-2008, 05:27 AM
I'm sorry Don, I simply cannot agree with you. You should have said:

Do it, DO IT YESTERDAY!

Valarian
02-19-2008, 08:10 AM
I like this map ... a lot. I love the atlas look to the map, and the colour palette used.

The Cartographist
02-19-2008, 08:33 AM
Alucard- I really like your attachment for the ocean definition. I'd like to see a tutorial on that.

Yandor- I'm going to have to (partially) disagree with you on this one. While atlas-style oceans do NOT have details like that which Alucard proposed, they often have mutliple shades of blue to depict deeper and deeper water. I think its fairly common for atlas-style maps to have something other than flat blue water.

Gamerprinter
02-19-2008, 10:27 AM
I believe other maps by HandsomeRob, include a minimal amount of off shore shallows. However these volcanic islands could very well have steep slopes dropping to the ocean floor and the source of these volcanoes.

Hawaii for instance has steeply sloping beach dropping towards the sea floor. Volcano islands are seabottom mountains. There would effectively be no shallow areas per se, except right at the beach - and this wouldn't show in a map.

HandsomeRob's maps have a very much National Geographic feel to them, don't lessen it because its less "artistic" than other maps found here. These are very technical maps and accurate in look and feel, more so than any artistic map... ;)

HandsomeRob
02-19-2008, 11:11 AM
Thanks for the responses! I guess I will have to do that walkthrough/tutorial then. I will try to finish up the map of Gurhana that I have in production now (probably a week or so?) and after that is done I will do the next map step-by-step with you guys.

About this map:
I have not included any sort of water depth shading on any of my maps so far. I agree that it would definitely enhance this particular map. I might consider adding some sort of depth shading if I ever get around to doing a second edition of my atlas. I wonder if I could come up with a method... I'm not particularly fond of the ocean depths given by Fractal Terrains so that is right out.

Thanks all,
-Rob

Lwaxana
03-01-2008, 09:02 PM
Are you going to mark whre the detail maps are on the world map eventually? I didn't manage to place them all correctly.

HandsomeRob
03-01-2008, 09:54 PM
Are you going to mark whre the detail maps are on the world map eventually? I didn't manage to place them all correctly.

I don't yet have a map showing all of the regional coverages, but the KML file in the original post should be a good start (if you have Google Earth), as it links all of the regional maps in, and you can find any of them in the included directory.
-Rob

The Cartographist
03-02-2008, 09:43 AM
HR- Question for you.

Was Oahu the basis for the island in this map? I thought that when I first read this thread, and with GP mentioning Hawai'i, I jumps out at me even stronger.

HandsomeRob
03-02-2008, 10:30 AM
Was Oahu the basis for the island in this map? I thought that when I first read this thread, and with GP mentioning Hawai'i, I jumps out at me even stronger.

The Hawai'ian island chain was a strong influence for this region. Round-ish islands with volcanoes in the center, jungles on the windward sides and deserts on the leeward sides. These islands are a bit bigger than the Hawai'ian islands, but I think that pattern should carry over okay. Place names here are loosely based upon ancient Egyptian, however, which I think makes a nice contrast.
-Rob

cereth
03-02-2008, 12:16 PM
The atlas style maps are incredible. The first time seeing these maps is what made me decide I had to be a member of this community. I can't wait for the tutorials to be completed on how Rob did these. :)

pyrandon
03-02-2008, 02:02 PM
Just to keep this post updated for posterity's sake, Rob has his walk-thru/tutorial posted here: http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=1577

Thanks, Rob!

Lwaxana
03-02-2008, 09:22 PM
The KML is not much of a help, as the detail maps with litte or no coastline are even less placable for me there. I gues I'll have to wait :o)

Redrobes
03-03-2008, 08:15 AM
Are you going to mark whre the detail maps are on the world map eventually? I didn't manage to place them all correctly.But they are all marked with lat/long indications on the grid. That would be enough to nail them down surely ?