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jtougas
06-25-2011, 08:26 AM
Well after getting burned on a couple of commissions (and you know who you are..) I've decided to get out of the "Mapping for money" game. I realize everyone gets burned once in a while but I also realized I have no stomach for the complete lack of respect that goes along with that. The other thing that burns me is that I have absolutely no recourse. Oh well. The way my mapping is at the moment I'm really not good enough to be getting paid for it anyway. :)

Steel General
06-25-2011, 08:53 AM
Sorry to hear that.

I wouldn't be so hard on yourself. I see obvious improvement in your work from when you first jumped on board.

Blaidd Drwg
06-25-2011, 09:27 AM
I agree with the General, here. But what's to stop you from trying again when you feel you've gotten good enough?
Don't give up!

walterful
06-25-2011, 12:31 PM
Boo! That is some sad new, jtougas. My condolences. Sure, give up on the business, but don't give up on yourself!

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arsheesh
06-25-2011, 02:04 PM
Sorry to here about being burned on those commissions. You know, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to start a Guild blacklist of those clients who renigged on their agreements/contracts with Guild artists. That way, even though they may have gotten a map or two free, they will have burned their bridges with the Guild on future commissions. This would also help to protect Guild members from being taken advantage of by known offenders. My 2c.

On a side note, I've been asked to do a couple of commissions (which have yet to materialize) and I insisted on 50% of the payment up front (no refunds if they decide they don't want the map after all). Moreover, I will only send small resolution WIP maps to the client, with the full resolution completed map only being delivered upon final payment. This is my way of protecting myself.

Anyway, I hope this experience has not tainted your love of fantasy map-making JT.

Cheers,
-Arsheesh

Ascension
06-25-2011, 02:13 PM
Well since you'll have more time on your hands this is a good time to try out some new styles or experiments. :) Map for yourself; that's what I do and I leave the real masters to do their thing. Play a game or something for a while and just let the fires reignite on their own. Or do some yardwork. :)

Wannabehero
06-25-2011, 03:00 PM
That sucks JT, I'm sorry you've had some bad customers.

jtougas
06-25-2011, 03:45 PM
Thanks everyone for the kind words. I haven't given up on fantasy cartography completely. I still have a campaign setting that needs maps and I'm sure once I get over my current black mood the ideas will flow again. :)

Gamerprinter
06-25-2011, 04:00 PM
I've been burned once, though I eventually got paid - 6 months later. I generally only take commissions from known publishers, though I have done a few commissions for individuals. I wouldn't give up Jtougas, as most have treated me fairly. I think you ran into one too many sour apples in a row. Do you have a contract that you sign along with the publisher? A simple contract can go far to insure you get paid for services rendered. You can use a standard contract as a freelancer. When you get your next commission, email them a PDF of your contract and have the client sign it, scan it and return it to you. When you receive it, you sign and mail the contract to the client. This will not guarantee you get paid, but at least you will have some legal standing. If the client does not sign the contract - you don't do any map services. No crime no foul. That's my only advice to you.

GP