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Justintime
02-23-2008, 01:33 PM
Here's a little map I was working on, and I'm not quite sure of the name yet. I was going for a kind of Middle Earth esque woodcut style. It's obviously not done yet but any critique would be appreciated.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/elliotc2/img016.jpg

pyrandon
02-23-2008, 01:41 PM
Okay, Justin(time)--as a huge fan of good handdrawn maps I A) really like this, and B) really, really like this. Great first map post!

I think two improvements could have been made: 1, in places the hashing looks a bit too scribbled, which gives the impression you rushed (?), and 2) the lined paper was the absolute wrong choice, as it gives what is a pleasing map an amaturish look.

Finally, and this is just a compositional thing, perhaps outside the scope of what you imagine, water dominates the map, making your land masses appear very, very small. I would focus in on the islands a bit (and if they are continents, focus in a LOT, I say).

Still, great job. I'm so glad you joined the Guild and posted this. Looking forward to future incarnations! :)

Justintime
02-23-2008, 01:53 PM
Yea, the lined paper thing is regrettable but I just sort of started sketching and didn't want to start over. I think I will work on doing five more maps, one for each of the islands and zooming in a lot more. And I definitely will do them on better paper!

The hashing is certainly rushed in places, just gets tedious to do. I'll have to work on that.

pyrandon
02-23-2008, 01:55 PM
Justintime, do you have Photoshop or any other graphics software? Because the lines are blue & red, whereas the rest of your map is in black, these elements could be easily removed...

If you do not have such a program, you may want to download GIMP (it's free) and use it for that as well as many other touchups for your hand-drawn maps. :)

Justintime
02-23-2008, 02:10 PM
Ahah! That's a good idea. And I have GIMP. My only question is how would I do it?

Justintime
02-23-2008, 02:16 PM
Here we are. Looks much better.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/elliotc2/Map22.jpg

pyrandon
02-23-2008, 02:23 PM
That made a HUGE difference!

I'm not sure where you're going next with this, but in GIMP you could do a lot of things to enhance this map--color, textures, parchment, etc. Lots and lots of possibilities!

Justintime
02-23-2008, 02:27 PM
I think it would look cool on parchment. If you could explain quickly or just link me to a tutorial that'd be great.

Thanks

Justintime
02-23-2008, 02:39 PM
Here it is with mountain and hill shading added.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/elliotc2/Map22-1.jpg

terrainmonkey
02-23-2008, 02:45 PM
yeah, i would have to agree. first of all, it's a great map. i do find the seas a little busy though. perhaps on the next go round, you could just put thinner lines around the land masses only and leave the seas empty. cartographers of the time period in history you are trying to emulate would have left the seas bare, except for a poseidon or sea serpent image. just a thought. good execution by the way. it shows tremendous talent. :)

Midgardsormr
02-23-2008, 02:50 PM
I was about to say what TM just said. Actually, since you've got it in an editor now, you could just erase a lot of the sea lines and leave them around the coasts only. The lines around the coasts already look much more deliberate than the ones in the open seas. Try it out and see if it looks good to you.

I also wanted to say that I like the cog. It has a very medieval drawing look to it.

Justintime
02-23-2008, 03:02 PM
Ok here is the version with the seas erased. I rather like the look of it this way, just looks cleaner and less overwhelming.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/elliotc2/Map23.jpg

MadLetter
02-23-2008, 04:37 PM
I like this version better, too. Looks nicer and cleaner. Nice job! :)

Justintime
02-23-2008, 05:53 PM
Here we are with a lil parchment action added.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/elliotc2/parchmentredir.jpg

NeonKnight
02-23-2008, 06:03 PM
I must say, This is the hallmark of this guild! A person posts a map. A GREAT map, and then the suggestions come, the map is tweaked, and before you know it BINGO-BANGO-BONGO! The map is a work of art!

Superb!

Justintime
02-23-2008, 06:10 PM
well thanks to all of you for the suggestions! I was pleased with the map when it started out but wow! A few great suggestions and its even better.:)

And thank you all for the compliments too :)

terrainmonkey
02-24-2008, 01:32 AM
wow...

welcome to the guild, dude. you've got it. :)

alucard339
02-24-2008, 03:46 PM
Welcome to the guild and yes, this is a great map, more so since we can see the improvement you made to it.

IMHO, I'm not sure about the blur effect on the map, I think it distract my eyes.

The sea shore is great; I think I'll use it in one of my maps later on.

The scroll gives a good edge to the maps reading.

now 2 points: 1) I like the cog and maybe you could use it to make a compass rose (north with the mast); 2) It might just be me, but I think I would redo the scroll outline (dark brown or black) and add some scratch, broken part or even burn part to it. But make sure it doesn't keep the eye from the main map.

Sea U a-round,
Alu.

pyrandon
02-24-2008, 04:10 PM
I'll ditto this is a great edit. Nice job sticking with it!!

I'll also ditto alu that the blur effect is distracting. Instead of inksmeared, it looks just oddly fuzzy, like a camera took a, spotty, out of focus pic of it. I say get rid of that.

What you could do instead is put low opacity color variations on top of all other layers, maybe dabbing with some grunge brush. Or even find some waterstain brushes or pics on the internet & put them on top for authenticity. Just some ideas. :)

The Cartographist
02-26-2008, 07:55 AM
It is definetely fun to watch the evolution of the map. Now if only someone could make a time-lapse movie out of it, we could watch it change before our eyes.