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bartmoss
08-13-2011, 05:53 PM
This is a continuation of the old thread: http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?4375-Milky-Way-Galaxy

The galaxy itself is based on: http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/images/1923-ssc2008-10a-A-Roadmap-to-the-Milky-Way (NASA image)

WIP:

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Diamond
08-14-2011, 02:49 PM
I really loved the style of the previous version(s), but I'm digging this one too.

bartmoss
08-14-2011, 07:19 PM
Thanks. It's not that I hated the old versions, but, mh, I guess I am never quite satisfied with this stuff.

Minor update:
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Hungry Donner
08-14-2011, 07:41 PM
It's very nice.

Do you have a version zoomed in the Empire territory proper? (The circle that extends out to include the Hive, New Frontier, and Empty Quarter.) I'm having trouble reading the marked colonies.

bartmoss
08-14-2011, 09:27 PM
Sure. Just remember, it's very unfinished.

The systems are from the previous version, the arrangement is different though. I'll probably spread more or less the same system names over a much larger territory.

The basic idea is that the Empire does claim the entire galax, even if it, at this stage, could never enforce it. All the (mostly) blue stuff is how the Empire splits up the Milky Way galaxy. There are a few human nations, which are to the Empire as Taiwan is to the PRC, these aren't in the map yet.

Consider this RAH quote:

"But does Man have any "right" to spread through the universe? Man is what he is, a wild animal with the will to survive, and (so far) the ability, against all competition. Unless one accepts that, anything one says about morals, war, politics, you name it, is nonsense. Correct morals arise from knowing what man is, not what do-gooders and well-meaning old Aunt Nellies would like him to be. The Universe will let us know - later - whether or not Man has any "right" to expand through it."

The Empire's policy is one of Manifest Destiny.

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Current WIP:

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bartmoss
08-18-2011, 08:22 AM
Updated WIP:
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Zoom of Imperial region:
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Anybody got any cool suggestions on what to do with all the whitespace on the borders of the map? I am thinking perhaps an evolution of the Imperial territory over time, or something similar, but what else could I do?

rdanhenry
08-21-2011, 11:08 PM
Spaceships.

mearrin69
08-21-2011, 11:23 PM
This looks very cool! I notice two "New California" systems on there. Was that intentional? I can certainly see how it might happen during an expansion push. Edit: if not intentional and you want them to be different you could make one "Nuevo California" and call it a day.

BTW, thanks for the link to the original map. I grabbed the images for my future projects folder.
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bartmoss
08-22-2011, 08:52 AM
rdanhenry, I am afraid my graphics skills are not sufficient to draw nice spaceships.

Mearrin, good catch - that duplicate New California was not intentional although I am sure in a Galactic Empire such duplicates will occur. I have a list of, hm, about 350 colony names so I'll just pick something else, or maybe I'll name it "New Francisco" or something ;)

wormspeaker
08-23-2011, 12:03 PM
Anybody got any cool suggestions on what to do with all the whitespace on the borders of the map? I am thinking perhaps an evolution of the Imperial territory over time, or something similar, but what else could I do?

Celtic Knots made of computer circuitry.

OneSeventeen
09-03-2011, 12:33 AM
Anybody got any cool suggestions on what to do with all the whitespace on the borders of the map? I am thinking perhaps an evolution of the Imperial territory over time, or something similar, but what else could I do?

Evolution of the Imperial flag and/or seal over time? A data block about population, demographics, major exports, star type, number of planets, founding date, etc. for some of the more notable Imperial worlds? Also: A key.


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Coyotemax
09-03-2011, 12:38 AM
Where is that quote from, from the first post? i like it.

Exin
09-03-2011, 11:25 AM
Evolution of the Imperial flag and/or seal over time? A data block about population, demographics, major exports, star type, number of planets, founding date, etc. for some of the more notable Imperial worlds? Also: A key.


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Also he could use some of the empty white space to but a brief description or story, if there is space enough. Its a nice map, good job on it ^^.

bartmoss
09-25-2011, 07:12 AM
Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I went with flags/seals. I've also added some more star systems to the map itself.

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moriturimax
01-28-2012, 08:43 PM
Dude, I would kill for a breakdown of how you ended up with that map, the clean white background and greyscale stars in the front. I am starting, well restarting, my own galaxy map project for my Irimagik setting using the old Alternity RPG rules. I absolutely love what you've done with such a normally cluttered idea.

LOVE IT!

bartmoss
01-30-2012, 04:05 AM
Thank you - It wasn't that hard really. The map is basically an inverted and tweaked version of the NASA Milky Way drawing: http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/images/1923-ssc2008-10a-A-Roadmap-to-the-Milky-Way

It's not just a negative though, that would make the spiral arms too thin.

Next, I had to clear up some gunk that was left; there were areas that were too grey, and in the centers of the arms were areas that were too white. Used cloning a lot to fill in gaps.

After that, I resized the image - blew it up to huge proportions, and used a variety of filters to remove the blockiness from the map.

I'm sorry I can't give a very detailed list of what to do, as I didn't take notes.

But if I can do it, anybody can. I am hardly a gimp-expert.

All the lines, text, systems and so on, were then added with Inkscape.

moriturimax
01-31-2012, 11:18 AM
Drooled over your map again. Only got one thing to say, Preseus Arm?

Heh, lovely map, I decided to go with the Pinwheel Galaxy as my base. I think I used that in my original work, dug up my old stuff from around 2000. Set up some galleries at Alternitechnity (http://alternitechnity.squarespace.com).

Its a work in progress, just got it started couple days ago, Graphics Galleries should be up, I hope to redo the stuff there with much much better quality, ugg. Once I do I might even be brave enough to post something here.

bartmoss
02-01-2012, 01:25 AM
Thanks - typos do happen. i am sure at some point I will spot one on the A1 poster of my current map :)

Just took a really quick look at your gallery, you certainly do not need MY advice on drawing, nice stuff!

If you are interested though, I wouldn't mind releasing the basic gray galaxy image as cc-by. Hvae to run to work now but I'll upload it later.

bartmoss
02-01-2012, 05:16 AM
I've released the base image under the Creative Commons Attribution license: http://enderra.com/2012/02/01/milky-galaxy-black-white/

Enjoy!