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Sapiento
09-23-2011, 03:00 AM
My next excursion into mythological landmasses after my Mu map, this time Hyboria by Robert E. Howard.
I'll try to make this map in a similar painted style. Besides the movies I'm not very familiar with this universe, so if anyone finds a flaw in the design, please let me know. I use mainly this map as template:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090323005907/asgard/images/thumb/a/a7/Hyboria_full_color.jpg/240px-Hyboria_full_color.jpg from this website (http://aoc-rp.wikia.com/wiki/Age_of_Conan_-_Rollenspieler_Wiki).

jfrazierjr
09-23-2011, 05:42 AM
Good subject matter here. Can't wait to see more!!!!

Is it just me, or does it look like the land mass is Africa + Asia with the mediteranian sea turned and moved(and india jutting down a bit further south than "normal").... anyway... sorry for the sidebar, I don't know anything about Conan's world history, so it could be entirely coincidental illusion.

Steel General
09-23-2011, 06:49 AM
This looks like a great start... can't wait to see more.

@JFjr - I think you are right, I remember reading somewhere that it was loosely based off the 'real world'

jfrazierjr
09-23-2011, 07:02 AM
This looks like a great start... can't wait to see more.

@JFjr - I think you are right, I remember reading somewhere that it was loosely based off the 'real world'

Interesting.... I did not know that...

Sapiento
09-23-2011, 09:39 AM
Indeed, Howard made some references to real-world regions.

Basic colours applied.

Soixante
09-23-2011, 11:29 AM
Nearly every place in Hyboria has a RL historical counterpart; Khitai is based on China, Vendhya is India, the sea of Vilayet is the Caspian Sea, Zingara is Spain, etc etc. You've even got 'Iranistan' in there. :) Howard loosely imagined his world as our own about 10 000 BC, with all these great civilizations since having fallen but having a lingering influence on later cultures.

The map looks good, though I would like to point out that the coastlines of the 'reference map' you're using are in no way definitive, so you could have changed them around in making your own version. At least to me, the coastlines in your reference map of Hyboria were always just a little too familiar.

porkenbeans
09-23-2011, 09:48 PM
I believe that Howard was the creator of Conan the Barbarian. This series of adventures took place 12,000 years ago when the continents were somewhat connected. Hyboria was this place, and Conan was not the sweet natured bloke that Swartsnagger portrays. I started a map on this subject a couple years back. Great to see it brought back up here.
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv12/porkenbeans/Conancopy.jpg

Gamerprinter
09-23-2011, 10:48 PM
Actually Hyboria was not the place, as that is Earth, 12,000 years ago. It was the Hyborian Age - I've been 'corrected' on this before...

And its not supposed to emulate Eurasia, rather it is Eurasia with different sealevels than today - Conan's Hyborian Age is Earth, not 'like Earth' nor 'loosely based on Earth'.

GP

Sapiento
09-24-2011, 04:35 AM
Actually Hyboria was not the place, as that is Earth, 12,000 years ago. It was the Hyborian Age - I've been 'corrected' on this before...

And its not supposed to emulate Eurasia, rather it is Eurasia with different sealevels than today - Conan's Hyborian Age is Earth, not 'like Earth' nor 'loosely based on Earth'.

GP

Correct. According to wikipedia it's around 40.000 BC.

More colour applied, more rivers, dunes and rough outlines for forests.

bartmoss
09-24-2011, 05:25 AM
I don't believe that river which goes in a roughly triangular path from southafrica to cameroon - it crosses through a mountain. Now, in theory, that could be a valley, but it seems unlikely. Similar issue exists with the rivers north of the western tip of africa.

cantab
09-24-2011, 08:18 AM
Agreed, it looks very odd. I also think the plateau in the north-east is a bit unrealistic, it might look better if the mountains around it sloped to the plateau's level, not to the lower level.

Of course, if these things are in the original media you have to go with them.

Sapiento
09-24-2011, 10:40 AM
I don't believe that river which goes in a roughly triangular path from southafrica to cameroon - it crosses through a mountain. Now, in theory, that could be a valley, but it seems unlikely. Similar issue exists with the rivers north of the western tip of africa.


Agreed, it looks very odd. I also think the plateau in the north-east is a bit unrealistic, it might look better if the mountains around it sloped to the plateau's level, not to the lower level.

Of course, if these things are in the original media you have to go with them.

If I read the maps (the template and others) correct, than the rivers as well as the plateau are OK.

Sapiento
09-26-2011, 05:46 AM
Forest are coloured. I'm unsure if I should add more detail to the forest or keep them as they are. The more amorphous look they have now seems more natural. But stylewise a few viewable trees might be interesting.

feanaaro
09-26-2011, 06:53 AM
From the reference map you posted, the plateau seemed to be a little lower in height than the peaks of the mountains. That is, it seems to have a certain slope between the mountains and the inner plateau, while in your version it seems at the same level of the mountaintops, which looks indeed quite strange.

jfrazierjr
09-26-2011, 07:38 AM
I could go for a bit more definition in the forest. But it looks good even if you leave it as is. Oh and great job on those sand dunes... they look just wonderful!

arsheesh
09-26-2011, 02:30 PM
I'll second Jfraz's comments about adding detail to the forests, but that aside this is a fine looking map so far Sapiento.

Cheers,
-Arsheesh

Sapiento
09-29-2011, 02:22 AM
Uploading works again! :)

Details to forests added and a glacier in the northwest. I also slightly changed the plateau.

Ascension
09-29-2011, 04:09 PM
Lookin nice, Sap. Good stuff.

Diamond
09-29-2011, 08:59 PM
This... IS AWESOME. Keep up the good work, Sap!!!

rdanhenry
10-02-2011, 03:37 PM
If you want to do a little more research, instead of just following someone else's speculations, this site is the place to start: http://hyboria.xoth.net/maps/index.htm. Also, looking at the classic map based on REH's own sketches (which, to my knowledge, have never been released), http://hyboria.xoth.net/maps/original.gif, I just realized why the Styx makes that near-right-angle turn. It's the Nile, and without the Mediterranean to flow into, it turns west and flows to the ocean instead. As you can see, much of what is shown on the map you are using as a basis is speculative. And thanks to Wikipedia, here's a version of the based-on-REH map without the modern world superimposed on it: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/Maphyboria.jpg.

Sapiento
10-03-2011, 03:57 AM
If you want to do a little more research, instead of just following someone else's speculations, this site is the place to start: http://hyboria.xoth.net/maps/index.htm. Also, looking at the classic map based on REH's own sketches (which, to my knowledge, have never been released), http://hyboria.xoth.net/maps/original.gif, I just realized why the Styx makes that near-right-angle turn. It's the Nile, and without the Mediterranean to flow into, it turns west and flows to the ocean instead. As you can see, much of what is shown on the map you are using as a basis is speculative. And thanks to Wikipedia, here's a version of the based-on-REH map without the modern world superimposed on it: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/Maphyboria.jpg.

I'm well aware that the base map is full of speculations; I know the site you mention, because this was the first place I looked for maps.
As there is no definitive map of Hyboria I think this one works as well as template as any of the others. For example, the positions of Mu and Lemuria are based on hints in REH books, because there was never an exact position given on any of the original maps.

Sapiento
10-03-2011, 07:05 AM
Labels and city icons added. Probably some typos.

RobA
10-03-2011, 10:27 PM
Very nice look, Sap!

The forests are very nicely done. I can never get stylized forests to look good - they always end up looking blobby to me

-Rob A>

Sapiento
10-04-2011, 02:12 AM
Thanks RobA! Forests are the hardest part for me, too.

Sapiento
10-04-2011, 03:15 AM
I think this map is more or less finished, unless someone spots a typo or design error.

Schwarzkreuz
10-04-2011, 09:42 AM
I am realy impressed about how you created such a map in such an amount of time. Actually I like it more than the "original map".

Steel General
10-04-2011, 09:43 AM
Nicely done Sapiento!