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Kagehito
03-09-2008, 04:29 PM
Ok so this will be my first Post ever here! Woot!

So if its craptacular, then let me know!

Preface, Old forgoten temple, now inhabited by a maurading pack of Gnolls.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r308/Absent_minded_professor/Newmaps.jpg

Note! I have no actual training whatsoever in graphic design except one photoshop calss way back in high school. Just years of gaming and drawing of graph paper.

Please tell me what you think, and any techniques and stuff you've found that work! Good filters and whatnot that are free would be healpful as well.

Kagehito
03-09-2008, 04:35 PM
Then of course the alter moves and you get the underground "True Dungeon"

:)

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r308/Absent_minded_professor/Cryptinterior.jpg


So before anyone asks, what did you use to make this?

I made it from scratch, using macromedia Fireworks.
It took a great number of hours, cause like i said previously, i have no real training, and had to teach myself as i went along.

pyrandon
03-09-2008, 04:37 PM
Hi, Kaegehite--and welcome to the Guild. If you ever feel so inclined, please post an intro in the Member Introductions forum; we'd like to get to know you better!

This is a fine first map post. Good job. I like a lot of what you've done. Before I give specific suggestions, can you say what program you used? (was it Photoshop, since you mentioned one class & asked for filters?)

In general, though, I think the first thing to find is a way to either make the trees less realistic or the temple more realistic; right now it appears you have a line drawing on a photograph, so they clash in style. Something to think about.

Once again, welcome to the Guild!

EDIT: hahaha. In the time it took me to post this, you already answered the program question AND posted a second map! Your new nickname: Speedy Gonzales!

Fireworks does pose problems for me because I know nothing about that software. (I own it, but have never used it!)

delgondahntelius
03-09-2008, 04:39 PM
heh... I missed it the first read through... but read it again.. he says what he used :D

Kagehito
03-09-2008, 04:39 PM
Lol

*pokes post you must have missed*

you didn't see the second one did you?

Anyway sure! I'll go post in the new members forum right now!

RobA
03-10-2008, 11:11 AM
Hi Kaegehite, Nice first post.

Looks like you have a good eye for shading there. Where is the clipart from?

I think Don got it right, consistency of style is what takes a map up to a new level...

-Rob A>

Kagehito
03-10-2008, 07:33 PM
Clip art? If you are talking about the trees, its actually image shot from above a patch of trees if i'm not mistaken.

I erased the stuff around it then used a bunch of copy paste to splat it around everywhere.

Then i used a picture of grass, a picture of a stone wall, and a picture of a pile of dirt for the textures of the ground.

After that I Made all the other things i think in Vector lines, and added them to my symbols so i can use them all the time.

For the shading I used the freeform selector, and drew the areas to shade, and hit it with the burn tool to darken it up.

That way it only effected the areas i had selected.

RobA
03-11-2008, 09:43 AM
Sorry! I was thinking that the vector art was from the dundjinni forums or from CSUAC.

(Mainly because the style was different from the background textures - i.e. realistic vs diagrammatic).

If you are willing, you could post some of the objects in the Mapping Elements forum (http://www.cartographersguild.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49)

-Rob A>

Kagehito
03-11-2008, 05:42 PM
Actually, I would love to do that! Give what I made back to the community!

Thanks for letting me know!