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Gidde
03-26-2012, 10:25 PM
Hi all,

I recently downloaded the preview of Gimp 2.8 (2.7.5 development release) and I'm finding it's all I hoped it would be, but I've been doing mostly family photo retouching with it and not mapping yet. So I thought I'd start this thread to find out if anyone else is using the 2.8 preview, and how it's working out for your mapping.

Anyone have any experiences yet?

jfrazierjr
03-27-2012, 08:48 PM
<--- using...

I JUST found out via the IRC channel and talking with one of the devs that resources split into sub folders will not "auto tag". ie, the sub folder names will now become tags. For me, this replaces much of the "love" I had for the functionality in GURM.

Layer Groups is rather nice, but currently you can't mask at the group level(still have to mask each layer individually... not sure if this will make it into 2.8 either)

The big change IMHO is the brush dynamics. This is a great new feature. Unfortunately, 2.8 won't have "live" preview similar to the way PS does with it's brush dynamics preview though...

Gidde
03-27-2012, 08:55 PM
Huh, I haven't seen the new brush dynamics yet, that's cool. I'll have to check it out. The layer groups (even individually masked) are the one BIG plus for me. I can get up to a hundred tiny layers going on a map when I start putting labels on etc. and not being able to group them sucked!

Gidde
04-02-2012, 01:08 PM
Well, looks like I'll be switching back to 2.6 for the foreseeable future, which makes me sad. I ran into this problem (namely, the pressure on my tablet doesn't register correctly) while doing my latest handdrawn style test and it looks like there's no fix on the horizon per the 2.7.5 release notes page (http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.7.html):


GIMP 2.8 relies on a newer version of GTK+2 that unfortunately has partially broken support for graphics tablets such as Wacom. If your graphic tablet doesn't work in GIMP 2.8 as it should, we recommend downgrading to 2.6 until we release GIMP 3.0 that relies on GTK+3 which has fully functional support for advanced input devices.

jfrazierjr
04-02-2012, 01:50 PM
Well, looks like I'll be switching back to 2.6 for the foreseeable future, which makes me sad. I ran into this problem (namely, the pressure on my tablet doesn't register correctly) while doing my latest handdrawn style test and it looks like there's no fix on the horizon per the 2.7.5 release notes page (http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.7.html):

Well... if your up for a challenge, you could always try to compile gtk+ yourself. I had some issues after I unplugged my tablet and had to recompile gtk+ with an optional setting to get it to work again(was greyed out as it if could not find it after a re-plug in). However, that was on linux and was a linux specific flag(well.. non Windows specific flag would be more appropriate wording) to the gtk compile script and have had no issues since then.


I assume you have the version from Partha? I don't know if Gimp expects GTK to already be installed(I think the windows version installs for your) or not. However, Partha might be willing to give a try to compile gtk+ if he can find the root cause and the issue is NOT related to a code change he would have to make(ie, he may need to do as I did and pass a flag to the gtk+ compile script)

Gidde
04-02-2012, 02:17 PM
I do in fact have Partha's version. I'll have to give that a try, thanks!

Gidde
05-06-2012, 11:25 PM
Well, now that 2.8 is actually out (thanks for mentioning that in a different thread, jfrazierjr!) the release notes have a blurb about pressure & tablets that looks promising. Gonna give it another try, keeping my fingers crossed!

Jaxilon
05-07-2012, 12:19 AM
I'm still on 2.6 and since I'm in the midst of a challenge entry I don't think I will be trying any upgrades. Once I'm done with that however I will jump on this.

jfrazierjr
05-07-2012, 08:33 AM
From what i can tell, the issue seems to be specific to some tablets and OS != linux(ie, windows... not sure about Mac). Best I can say would be to install 2.8, test and if you have issues, revert to 2.6 as documented(or better yet, just run linux!!!!!) I am getting my new computer sometime tomorrow, so in the next day or so, I will likely give it a try with my Bamboo tablet. Then, I will split the partition and install linux and just use that for everything since I know it works....;)

Gidde
05-07-2012, 08:43 AM
Ha. Yeah, I loved my linux box but ended up giving the machine away. Although I hear horrible things about the state of ubuntu these days :( Damn shame, that.


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jfrazierjr
05-07-2012, 09:01 AM
Ha. Yeah, I loved my linux box but ended up giving the machine away. Although I hear horrible things about the state of ubuntu these days :( Damn shame, that.

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It depends on what you mean by Horrible... If you mean the window manager Unity, well... you have options to use GNOME3 or even GNOME2.x or one of many other window managers. Personally, when I re-installed, I went with Mint 12 which is based on Ubuntu but with GNOME3 as it's default window manager BUT it includes some pre installed extensions that make GNOME3 work a bit more like GNOME2(so sort of a best of both worlds approach).

In any event, I don't have a ton of windows specific stuff I need to do, but most of that stuff is possible on windows XP, so I just slap a VirtualBox in linux and use that to run windows software that I "need"(like a few .Net 4/Silverlight only things that Mono can't cope with at the moment). If you have decent hard drive space(or can afford a secondary/bigger one) I would highly recommend a dual boot and play around with linux more.

Opinions on distro's are as numerous as there are people, but for the most part I like the ubuntu style of try to keep things as easy and generic as possible. It's not that I could not use OpenSuse, Fedora, or another distro that has less hand holding, its that I just don't have the time to spend trying to figure out stuff that I don't really "need" to know just to say I use X distro of linux....

Gidde
05-07-2012, 09:15 AM
Ha! Yeah, that's why I switched from FedoraCore to Ubuntu in the first place. It's nice to have the power to configure anything you want to, without *having* to configure *everything*. It's encouraging that gnome is still optionally available. Currently I don't have the hard drive space, but I'll most likely be dual booting as soon as I get another one.


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Jaxilon
05-07-2012, 11:11 AM
:roll:This is just becoming a dangerous thread now. :) Not only am I tempted to attempt upgrading my Gimp but now the idea of setting up dual boot with Linux is bouncing around the back of my head.

Upgrading is bound to go wrong and take hours to figure out. :x

*must resist, must resist*

Gidde
05-07-2012, 11:20 AM
Upgraded gimp on my work (xp) machine and it works like a charm, tablet pressure and everything. woot!


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Jaxilon
05-07-2012, 11:24 AM
You are taunting me!!!

Gidde
05-07-2012, 02:20 PM
Give in to the dark side ...


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Revock
06-23-2012, 11:51 AM
Personally, I've decided to revert to GIMP 2.6.8. 2.8 runs horribly slow on my older machine and the ability to use a single window means nothing to me since I've always used GIMP and I'm used to the toolboxes the way they were. Perhaps if i ever scrape the cash together for a newer comp i'll want 2.8 and later but, the tuts i use from here used 2.6 and the speed tradeoff matters.

jfrazierjr
06-24-2012, 02:06 AM
Personally, I've decided to revert to GIMP 2.6.8. 2.8 runs horribly slow on my older machine and the ability to use a single window means nothing to me since I've always used GIMP and I'm used to the toolboxes the way they were. Perhaps if i ever scrape the cash together for a newer comp i'll want 2.8 and later but, the tuts i use from here used 2.6 and the speed tradeoff matters.


Thats too bad... 2.8 has some really nice new features. For me, the new brush dynamics are the most important, as well as the new categorization features of resource using tags.