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04-21-2012, 05:00 AM
Hello everyone, im a new guy here, and the last 4 months i studied a little of how creat a fantasy map, to my personal campaing. Well, now im stucked, and i dont know what can i do to make the map look better in all the ways. For example, i dont know how can i color his ground! Anyone can help me?


04-21-2012, 08:44 PM
At first sight it looks like it has been done using MS Paint and another software, maybe Photoshop. I'll be a little rough if you don't mind. You might want to learn how rivers flow. Colors are nice. You did the same mistake as me with the mountains, do not resize them, try to draw them in different sizes, so they match better, otherwise one mountain has 2 px outline sharp, other has 5 px outline blurred, match them and you'll have nice results. The coastline looks square-ish, try to round them a little if you can. And there are many useful tutorials on how to paint land and water and everything. Try to put some texture in it, that'll make it more interesting. Also be careful with the layer arrangement, put them in the right order, so the mountains on the south-east don't float above the forest. Some trees don't have trunks, some have. Be careful with them.
A few corrections and steps and you'll have a nice map. Have fun experimenting.

04-21-2012, 11:02 PM
I like what you did in the center forest with the river being obscured by the trees. That being said each of your river systems have strange branches that don't seem to make sense. Water always flows downhill so look at each arm and ask yourself if it looks like it's coming from a high elevation area. If it doesn't you need to redraw the river or add some elevation in to make things make sense. There is a stickied tutorial in the tutorial forum that goes over all of the rules to drawing river systems, you should give it a read.

04-22-2012, 12:40 AM
Aside from the river violation, I really like the mountain/river/forest arrangement in the southeast. Nice job!

I'm new too and have gotten so much already by going through a couple of the tutorials, including how to make water and land look more interesting and artistic. I'd highly recommend some tutorials (if you haven't already tried them) and stealing what whatever tricks you can ;)

Check out the "qucikstart" sticky thread in the Tutorials sub-forum.

04-22-2012, 06:47 AM
Guys, thank for your answers... I just want to sorry for my bad explanation before. This is one country of the 18 countries that im planning to draw... im doing one by one... So the water is just for notation. My problem before was about the field color, but i thanks for the observation on the mountains and on the rivers orientation. I have just one more question. I didnt get why the rivers are badly oriented, onde there is no elevation information on the map?

Thanks for all... I'll continue to make questions here, if you guys dont mind!!!

04-22-2012, 02:29 PM
Hello again... Ive already donne some modifications, creating the mountains by myself and work a little on the rivers, and the result is

Obs: The ocean isnt finished, so its no so good.

04-22-2012, 02:31 PM
I like the style of the new mountains; it's just that they don't fit there (and don't blend with the forest either). Still, they are really good.

04-22-2012, 04:00 PM
Well, there is any place i can learn how to decide better places to create mountains, rivers and all this stuff....

04-22-2012, 05:39 PM
Well, mountains happen where tectonic plates are pressing into each other, and rivers form where water begins to gather (at the bottom of mountains, for example) and goes downhill toward an outlet, usually the ocean.

I also like the style of your mountains. I think it's just that they don't fit in with the style of the rest of the map. :)

04-23-2012, 01:02 PM
But this is my first map, so i need some tips here because im learning photoshop since january during my free time... So i would apreciate so much if anyone could help me... I think that the mountains arent fitting there, so what can i do to make then fit... Help please... And thanks for all....

04-23-2012, 01:16 PM
You're going to have to explain in more detail what exactly you want other than "help" which is kind of vague. I think those mountains could be there, if there were perhaps a volcanic hotspot underneath that area (a hotspot is a point where magma bubbles up in the middle of a plate.) It could explain the small islands to the north-east as well, though hotspots usually form little "chains" (for example, look at Hawaii.) The oldest mountains will be the shortest (due to erosion.)

One stylistic thing that immediately jumps out at me is that the lines of your continent and water are much thinner and more pixelated then the lines for your symbols (mountains, trees, etc.) so you may want to make these lines thicker and smoother to match.

Unless you ask more specific questions, that's all I can say, but you can only get better by doing a little research. It might be worth it for you to read the wikipedia article on plate tectonics, then go look in the tutorial forum for guides in whatever area you need help.

04-24-2012, 11:34 AM
I agree with Crudus's advice about the lines. I think some of what's at play here is stylistic rather than purely technical, but sometimes it can be tricky to make Photoshop bend to our will :) You should try to get the trees to blend in organically with the mountains as well, rather than pasting the mountains on top of a forest. Try to think how they would grow around the mountains; they also seem flat compared to the detailed, huge, jutting mountains. Look around for inspiration and ideas, try to see how others did what you are trying to do, or look over tons of maps and try to think what that person did that might be relevant to what you're trying to do.

04-29-2012, 01:54 PM
Hello again... I've studied a little of the manuals here on Cartographers guild, and changed a little the way i should draw my first map. I want to present Helácia (or at least some geographic features) a continent from this world im drawing now. Its on 40% of his full resolution. I hope you could gave me another tips and advises... Thanks.