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Sinnyo
05-12-2012, 12:37 PM
My neck is not thanking me for this challenge; I'd forgotten how much I tend to settle into bad seating postures when drawing! Well, anyway.

I'm returning to a game world which is not technically mine, named Saren (http://raygun-gothic.tumblr.com/tagged/AncientConflict). I was commissioned by a friend (and indie game dev. colleague) last year, to think this world up and to illustrate it. I'd produced a world map (http://raygun-gothic.tumblr.com/post/5187530586/a-map-of-saren-this-half-scale-preview-of-the) and a hand-drawn, digitally-coloured map of the vampire capital, Brannstadt (http://raygun-gothic.tumblr.com/post/5362329009/a-map-of-brannstadt-completion-at-last-i-tend), but for this challenge I thought I'd address one of the equatorial settlements, on the desolate island continent of Ar Drennor.

The story as I see it is that Saren's particularly magic-attuned race, the dryans, were exiled for the supposed safety of all the other factions. Back when the kingdoms were united, it was the humans of Midhaven who were tasked with the exile of this increasingly-powerful race, who once dwelled with the dwarves in Unnoria. The dryans, physically weak but intelligent, dwelt above ground, while the stout and narrow-minded dwarves tunnelled below. Humans, being neighbours to both these peoples, and a generally sea-faring race at that, were a natural choice to deliver this judgement. So, with the help of the elven army, the dryans were rounded up and deposited on Saren's southernmost continent, there to suffer in prison colonies.

Penance City was established in a tight cove to serve as chief port for this region, with the combination of restrictive geography and alarming, stepped elder architecture making it an ideal prison. Walls and forts were erected to cut off any escape over narrow mountain paths, while a great gate was erected in order to buffer the sea and isolate the cove. Dryans could then be delivered by the ship-load to a small marine cavern just north of the compound, there to be led through fortified tunnels into the city proper. Escape from here was deemed impossible; no architect could break the elder stone, keeping each tiered set of steps in tact. Furthermore, the area was surrounded by impassable mountains, so that in combination with city walls and a small army, touring every four months, kept the dryans in check for nearly a century.

Of course, the humans were overthrown, and within a single generation of the dryans' expanded lifetime, they've sought to claim Penance City as their capital. Human settlements still remain outside the city walls, and although any remaining supplies have been pillaged, they still stand until a time comes that the dryans will either move in or renovate. For now, they've simply sought to build passageways and breach the defences which were once designed to keep them penned in.

</lore waffle> ;)

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Also, a wider shot since while pencil doesn't come out at all well on a camera, I can at least show my working environment - and the map which I'm using as a style reference:

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mearrin69
05-13-2012, 12:01 PM
Nice work! I like the style.

Last time I did a hand-drawn city map my neck (and hand) hurt for weeks. :) Looks as if this one will be worth it, however. Keep going!
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Bogie
05-14-2012, 12:11 AM
Looking Good!!

Jaxilon
05-14-2012, 01:26 AM
Wow, that is great going so far. I think I have the same desk lamp btw, only mine is white. It's bright and I like it.

I need to scan my entry now before I chicken out or convince myself that I don't have time to finish it.

Sinnyo
05-14-2012, 11:39 AM
Thank you for the encouragement, everyone! Thanks to a rather social weekend I'm now a little bit panicky over actually finishing it.. not a great time to have revived my "WoW" subscription. XD


I think I have the same desk lamp btw, only mine is white. It's bright and I like it.

Hee! It seems to get about quite a bit. My only complaint is that I end up feeling like my eyelids are two sizes too small after I've used it for too long, no matter how much background light I use. So bright! :P

RjBeals
05-15-2012, 04:36 PM
That looks awesome! Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Jaxilon
05-15-2012, 06:59 PM
Question for ya - What kind of pen do you use for inking? I don't have much experience doing this so I'm wondering if it matters. I do know that I'm a pen biggot so if the pen sucks I'm going to hate it.

Sinnyo
05-15-2012, 08:28 PM
To be honest I've mostly used the same brands since I started GCSE graphic design, which alarms me deeply in itself. Not the exact same pens, of course, but it seems I've been buying Faber-Castell fineliners for 10 years. I should get out and buy the thinnest nib, 'S', but I'm using an 'F' since that thinner pen ran out some years ago. It's fair to say these are long-lasting! My thicker outlines are drawn in an Edding 1300 #1 - dunno much about it, since it came as an overall present with my A3 sketchpad, on my last birthday.

Faber-Castell do a set of four pens, three of which (S, F, M) have a nib which I have no idea how to describe (http://www.jerrysartarama.com/images/products/pens_and_markers/faber_castel/0059502000000-st-02-pitt-artist-sets-black.jpg), while the 'B' is a brush. It's a good brush (until it runs out, as mine did), but personally I've begun to favour the Edding, as it has a stubbier and quite solid felt tip (http://csimg.mercamania.es/srv/ES/00001985887/T/340x340/C/FFFFFF/url/rotulador-edding-1300-01.jpg). Much better for drawing longer lines, but of course not a patch on brushes when it comes to shading and fancy flicks (the latter of which I can't do anyway).

I hope that's not too verbose a description! I reckon they're good choices - for my style, anyway.

RjBeals
05-15-2012, 10:25 PM
Just ordered these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BLY39O/ref=ox_ya_os_product

Not to jack the thread, but you made me want to try an ink map myself. I think I'll be entering this comp ;)

Jaxilon
05-15-2012, 10:45 PM
Those look good and I in fact found one in my cup of pens...it's blue though but it writes well. I'm not sure about the price your link shows as that is a huge savings that doesn't compare with the price if you click on the link for the 'blank ink' 6 pack. Why are 6 pens normally worth $176.99? If that's accurate I'm going to order them as well but I think the are more like 15 bucks.

Also, sorry for the hijack continuance. Maybe I should move these two comments into the overall thread?

Sinnyo
05-16-2012, 06:50 AM
Hahah, that is an odd one. I often wonder if the Amazon seller just put the decimal point in the wrong place. I don't particularly mind either way, Jaxilon, but I suppose an ink discussion might be useful to someone else who's viewing this challenge but not necessarily snooping on me. ;)

I'm kind of chuffed if you felt that way, RjBeals! Now, I really should stop playing my Forsaken warlock of an evening, and get back to inking myself, if there are only ten days to go... :P

Sinnyo
05-18-2012, 01:16 PM
I appear to have inked myself into a right predicament. In my plan to do as I did with this one's sister map, and digitise it later, I have entirely forgotten to leave space for hand-drawn labelling. Given that I can't really fix this without starting the map again (leaving space for lettering, which will then set it apart from my previous map): will anyone mind if I start a fresh project and rename this topic accordingly, once I know what to call it?

Gidde
05-18-2012, 03:21 PM
Sure, just post when ypu decide, and we'll rename :)


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Gamerprinter
05-18-2012, 03:39 PM
I appear to have inked myself into a right predicament. In my plan to do as I did with this one's sister map, and digitise it later, I have entirely forgotten to leave space for hand-drawn labelling. Given that I can't really fix this without starting the map again (leaving space for lettering, which will then set it apart from my previous map): will anyone mind if I start a fresh project and rename this topic accordingly, once I know what to call it?

Can you digitally scan your map, if not, can you digitally scan anything? If possible, I would use tracing paper for proper size and placement and do your hand-drawn labels separately from your map. Once done, digitally scan your labels including 'clear space' behind the labels to place on top of the map.

Although I haven't found time to participate in this Challenge due to real life (and maps I need to create for several publications.) I generally do all hand-drawn work but create the elements separately, digitally scanned and composited to a final map. It's how I do it normally - and how I'd fix your predicament. It's an easy fix if you have access to a scanner.

Jaxilon
05-18-2012, 08:45 PM
Or just create your labels on a separate sheet, cut them out and use a glue stick to place them and then scan or photograph that.

You are always free to scratch and start over completely it's not a problem but would hate to see you chuck all your work out.

Sinnyo
05-21-2012, 06:02 AM
Thanks for the tips!

Ugh, I'm not sure if I'm going to make the deadline on either map. :P The former won't get thrown out, whatever happens - I always intended to colour it digitally later - but I'm not sure I want my second attempt to see the light of day. It's been fun to draw because it feels like the maps I used to draw as a child, but it looks it, too. Lettering is not my strong suit, and my pen is too thick. It's illegible! Well, all part of a good learning experience.

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(From a couple of days ago)

I'll see how much I can fit in this week to get Penance City done. If it's within the rules, then assembling the lettering some time around scanning might just be the key, but if not I guess I'll go for a Terry "Aerius" Maranda kind of vibe, as I love his map of Carthusal (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?5920-Carthusal-by-Aerius&highlight=Carthusal).

Am I right in thinking the deadline is Saturday?

Gidde
05-22-2012, 11:25 PM
We usually try to end challenges at the end of a weekend rather than in the middle, so I'm planning on closing the challenge Sunday night.

flocko
05-23-2012, 05:21 AM
Good luck! I really like the style of your other maps so I hope you finish this.

Sinnyo
05-25-2012, 11:32 AM
Just thought I'd post a nervous update from yesterday, since it looks like I'll have to abandon my entry. Things keep cropping up to stymie my production of an actual map ahead of a weekend away, but I've had fun and learned lots! I think I'll manage to finish inking my basic map before leaving on Saturday, but the cartouche is as distant a wish as the shading, and I've already messed up any hopes of labelling. On the positive side, I did finally buy a replacement set of fineliners, so I have my superfine and medium back!

I'll just have to plan my next challenge better. :)

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Jaxilon
05-26-2012, 01:51 AM
This is so cool looking I can't wait to see it done. I hope you somehow find a way to finish by the 31st. Even if you don't keep at it as this is a very nice piece.