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Chris Hodge
06-26-2012, 01:36 AM
Hi, my names Chris and Im very new to Cartography. I want to get into it for my gaming sessions. I just bought CC3 and DD3 but find that they dont have alot of the symbols Im looking for. I was wondering of there were any free resources out there to expand what I can play with. Ive looked at some older threads here on the forums but alot of the links are dead. Does anyone have anything more updated they could recommend?

Poison
06-26-2012, 04:11 AM
Hey, and welcome! I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "symbols". Do you mean terrain brushes (mountains, trees, houses) or other map elements (compass roses)? Whatever you need, it should be somewhere on the Mapping Elements (http://www.cartographersguild.com/forumdisplay.php?49-Mapping-Elements) forum, I think.

Mark Oliva
06-26-2012, 12:32 PM
Hi, my names Chris and Im very new to Cartography. I want to get into it for my gaming sessions. I just bought CC3 and DD3 but find that they dont have alot of the symbols Im looking for. I was wondering of there were any free resources out there to expand what I can play with. Ive looked at some older threads here on the forums but alot of the links are dead. Does anyone have anything more updated they could recommend?

Go over to ProFantasy's CC3 Forum at:

http://forum.profantasy.com/

... and check out the topics with CSUAC and Symbols as themes.

Unfortunately, the many raster symbols available today don't work all that well in CC3 without a bit of work on your part.

xoxos
06-26-2012, 03:07 PM
haven't been to the other forum, but if you're looking for conventional/modern mapping symbols, have a search for mapping fonts..

Chris Hodge
06-29-2012, 05:16 AM
Maybe Im not using the term 'symbols' in its proper form. For example, I was creating a dungeon and I wanted to make an armory. I was hoping to find things like armor/weapon racks or even simple things like an anvil and forge. Im looking for new things to place into my battle maps as well as things like floor and wall styles. Does that make more sense?

Chashio
06-29-2012, 07:19 AM
Sounds like you could find some of that stuff in the mapping elements forum, like Poison suggested. Might also find some useful links in the news forum... many pros on here have linked to bundles of things for maps that they've created for sale on other sites. Not free, but the links might point you toward other sites that may have what you're after, if you can't find it here. I think I've heard them called 'miniatures' by the way, but I could well be wrong (I don't play those types of games).

Elothan
06-29-2012, 08:49 AM
Inn CC3 raster symbol images is used with vector maps. The best place to Get them are either profantasys symbol packs (paid), the CSUAC or the Dundjinni forums got a gazillion of them

Chris Hodge
06-30-2012, 04:15 AM
I checked out Dundjinni and downloaded a all the files they had marked as 'Fantasy'. not all the files work though. Now I just need to find someone who wouldnt mind skyping me and showing me how to incorporate them all lol. Thanks a lot for all your guys' help so far :)

Mark Oliva
07-01-2012, 12:07 AM
I checked out Dundjinni and downloaded a all the files they had marked as 'Fantasy'. not all the files work though.

??? What do you mean when you say "not all the files work?" In what way don't they work?


Now I just need to find someone who wouldnt mind skyping me and showing me how to incorporate them all lol. Thanks a lot for all your guys' help so far :)

That's not really a very good solution. A better solution is to fork up 8.95 and buy Remy Monsen's excellent 600+-page Tome of Ultimate Mapping 3. Then, every time that you want to know how to do such things, you simply can look it up. Go to:

http://www.profantasy.com/products/tome.asp

Bogie
07-01-2012, 12:38 AM
I'm not very familiar with CC3, but I believe it will work with.png files. Most of the art at Dundjinni is in png format, but a few are in .jpg. Just double check your downloads to be sure they are in png format. You stated that you downloaded everything marked Fantasy, but as there are over 50 thousand items in the Objects & Textures (Fantasy) Thread, I suspect you missed a few. Here in the Guild I have a thread in which I have posted a couple hundred objects and textures that you should be able to use, and there are many others that have as well.

Click here for my Mapping Elements Thread: http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?16821-Mapping-Elements-Starting-with-Preset-Tables-and-Chairs

Mark Oliva
07-01-2012, 12:24 PM
I'm not very familiar with CC3, but I believe it will work with.png files.

That's pretty much correct, but if one just attempts to use downloaded PNGs as raster symbols in CC3 without importing them and putting them into catalogs, the results might be less than thrilling. CC3 likes to have each symbol in four different resolutions. Importing the symbols (usually) will produce that result. The Tome of Ultimate Mapping explains how to do that in a very understandable manner, which is why I recommended it.

Disclaimer: I don't want to sell myself as a CC3 expert or be taken for one. I have CC3, DD3 and CD3, but I don't make my maps with them. I use them only to convert our PNG symbols into full-fledged CC3/CD3 symbols. I have a pretty good understanding of the whole symbol system in CC3/CD3 (thanks to Remy Monsen and Ralf Schemmann), but I'm no expert at all in CC3 mapping. I haven't made a CC3 map since 2008.

Elothan
07-02-2012, 07:11 AM
Yeah, the tome is worth every penny as a reference work. Importing symbols caan be a bit confusing at finst, but gets pretty easy once learned.

Also I would suggest a search or question at the profantasy forum, where Monsen and Ralf tend to get answers really quick :)


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anomiecoalition
07-02-2012, 10:22 AM
I'm also very new to this cartography thing and CC3 (only since May)...but I was in a similar situation and have spent about as much time looking for objects on Dunjinni as I have mapping (not to mention tutorials). I don't have the Tome (would like to get it), but all you have to do is download the .png to a folder (I created a "downloaded" folder in my CC3 directory - subdivided by category of object) and click on the little icon just above and to the right of the symbol viewer (just below the options button). From there you can navigate to the symbols you have saved.

Its also helpful to note that you can save the floor tiles many have posted on Dunjinni in a similar way and then use them by creating a new fill style. (Click on the FS on the top right of your screen - select the bitmap files tab - select "new" - then click "find" - locate your floor tile - then adjust the specifications for it - i.e. scaling, etc).

Hope that helps.

Mark Oliva
07-02-2012, 11:13 AM
but all you have to do is download the .png to a folder

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Its also helpful to note that you can save the floor tiles many have posted on Dunjinni in a similar way and then use them by creating a new fill style.

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All of what you say is true, but you're getting less performance than you should if you don't import the symbols properly and place them into a catalog. Likewise, you come up short on what you can do with the new fill styles if you don't incorporate them properly into CC3. That, again, is why it's such a good idea to get the Tome and learn how to do it right.

Chris Hodge
07-07-2012, 02:43 AM
Thanks for all the advise. Unfortunately I cant sink anymore money into this project for the Tomb. So skype is kind of my only option to figure it out. Anyone willing to give up 15 minutes of there time, would be much appreciated.