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stevensj2
07-28-2012, 01:37 PM
I've previously posted a map of the North I created last summer. One of the comments I received was "why not do all of Westeros?"

So now I am :) I will also be adding Essos soon.

http://i.imgur.com/hbDWE.jpg.

This map is being created at a very high-resolution. The printed final version will be about 8ft tall.

My goal is to recreate this fictional world with as much realism as possible, making the viewer forget that they're not looking at a real place. For this reason, I've emphasized the terrain by using the same processes I do for maps of real locations.

The next steps before I move on to labels and political features will be to add additional landscape textures, details along the shore, and an indication of various depths in the ocean.

Just thought I would share these early stages of progress. I welcome any criticism and feedback you might have.

Thanks for taking a look!

- Josh

daemaree
07-29-2012, 12:43 AM
Wow, it's incredible. 8 ft tall? I think my computer would fry trying to process that. :) May I ask what program you used to create those kinds of textures? The only thing I noticed that stood out was that the snow line seemed a little "sharp" dividing the continents. Overall, it's a beautiful map!

bartmoss
07-29-2012, 12:34 PM
Cool project - could you post a small section at higher res please? Also, I understand you are an actual cartographer?

stevensj2
07-29-2012, 04:41 PM
Wow, it's incredible. 8 ft tall? I think my computer would fry trying to process that. :) May I ask what program you used to create those kinds of textures? The only thing I noticed that stood out was that the snow line seemed a little "sharp" dividing the continents. Overall, it's a beautiful map!

Thanks, and I appreciate the feedback! I'm still grappling with that area a bit since the way it is described in the book makes it sound like a really harsh division between the frozen north and the southern areas (there's a massive wall dividing the two). But I think your comment is spot on and it may be a good idea to soften that up a bit.


Cool project - could you post a small section at higher res please?

Absolutely - here is s closer view: http://i.imgur.com/9aZdC.png


Also, I understand you are an actual cartographer?
Yes, I am a professional cartographer with a background in geography and GIS.

Thanks again :D

Lukc
07-30-2012, 07:51 AM
So how are you modelling the terrain, if I may ask?

Moskva
07-30-2012, 11:36 AM
Thanks, and I appreciate the feedback! I'm still grappling with that area a bit since the way it is described in the book makes it sound like a really harsh division between the frozen north and the southern areas (there's a massive wall dividing the two). But I think your comment is spot on and it may be a good idea to soften that up a bit.



The division is not described so harsh in the book at all. Its cold but there are rivers and forests so I would move up the white areas a bit more.
I guess this map http://gamesofthrones.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/WesterosMap.jpg gives a good example.

It also depends which season you want to depict your map

stevensj2
07-30-2012, 01:50 PM
The division is not described so harsh in the book at all. Its cold but there are rivers and forests so I would move up the white areas a bit more.


See that's the difficult part: The Wall is made of ice (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Wall), so it would not make sense for a giant frozen wall 300 miles wide to be admist green, lush forest. The Wolfswood does continue up to and slightly beyond The Wall, but I think this area of the forest is likely to be quite snowy still - something like this (http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/4087/PreviewComp/SuperStock_4087-123.jpg), if it were real.

I think the snow in my WIP can definitely be lessened and spread out a bit, but I don't believe this area should be completely devoid of snow and ice, as depicted in Tear's map.

Moskva
07-30-2012, 05:50 PM
See that's the difficult part: The Wall is made of ice (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Wall), so it would not make sense for a giant frozen wall 300 miles wide to be admist green, lush forest. The Wolfswood does continue up to and slightly beyond The Wall, but I think this area of the forest is likely to be quite snowy still - something like this (http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/4087/PreviewComp/SuperStock_4087-123.jpg), if it were real.

I think the snow in my WIP can definitely be lessened and spread out a bit, but I don't believe this area should be completely devoid of snow and ice, as depicted in Tear's map.

Well a wall made of ice is impossible anyways, I consider it something magical. Ice under pressure, even when it is not melting, has a plasticity over time that causes it to flow. So, the Wall wouldn't even have to melt with high temperatures, it would simply ooze downward over time.

Next to that if everything north of the wall would be permafrost how would there be still so many people living there and such dense forests.

Guess its not called fantasy for nothing aye?

Next to that there's are the extremely long seasons. Even Winterfell seems permafrost during the winter years.

stevensj2
07-31-2012, 02:20 PM
So how are you modelling the terrain, if I may ask?

It's a combination of shaded relief generation and tinting done with GIS software. I get this question a lot so I've started writing a tutorial that shows how to do it.

It's in the works but not finished yet. I'm hoping to get it wrapped up before the summer comes to a close!