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vorropohaiah
08-11-2012, 08:45 AM
As the title indicates, this is my map of the Inner Sea and the surrounding Korachani empire. I've been working on this for some years now (yes you read that right) though the main reason its taking me so long is that the map has been secondary to my worldbuilding project and regions and localities have only been added to the map as I've fleshed out the world itself. If you look at the corners (particularly the N-W part of the map, you'll notice that it's a lot more bare than the central parts - those areas are still rather vague in the 'Encyclopaedia Elyden' and will be added to later as I flesh them out, though the map is as good as done.

The first iteration of the map was drawn on an A3 paper about 7-years ago and it has gone through countless updates and was first digitised about 2-years ago. All work is done in PS and a cheapo wacom tablet (cannot recommend a tablet enough - it speeds up work so much!). When I first started work on the map I had never used PS before and all my experience with PS comes from this and other doodles and lots of help from this site (especially the Saderan (sp?) tutorial). The original PSD is 300 dpi CMYK 41" x 61" and will be printed at full-size for my man-cave once I declare it done. The jpg this upload is based on is RGB 200 dpi and 41" x 61" and is about 75mb big so rather than shrink it down to a 4.5mb file I decided to split it into four and upload the separate maps, which preserve a lot of detail. I'm still not 100% sold on some parts of it (mostly the texture and colour), though i think this one is as good as done. To anyone interested the WIP thread is here (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?18773-Elyden-map) and the map goes through a few iterations due to changing personal preferances and other peoples' opinions and if i end up changing the map it'll mostly be done there.

Please do give feedback and criticisms as this is something I want to turn out as good as I possibly can, so any help is welcome. One thing I've noticed is the displacement layer I used to distort the picture to match the parchment background might be a bit too obvious in places (with the text taking on a wavy appearance in some areas) this is going to be toned down.


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EDIT: also added a zoomable version.

vorropohaiah
08-12-2012, 02:50 AM
i uploaded a newer version of the map - slightly recoloured (some monitors were showinjg it up very yelloe) and with the displacement player toned down. I'll probably go over the parchment layer with the clone tool to remove some of the creases

Eilathen
08-12-2012, 06:33 AM
Well...a masterpiece...anything else would be an understatement. I love this map.
How big will it be if printed out? I know you said it but i forgot.

Have some rep. (if i can rep you again).

vorropohaiah
08-12-2012, 01:45 PM
Thanks :)

it'll be 4" x 6" once printed. I'll be sure to take pics once I do!

Edit: I did it again. I mean of course 4' x 6' :p

Slylok
08-12-2012, 06:56 PM
i think the colors are perfect. excellent map! /envy :)

arsheesh
08-12-2012, 07:10 PM
Masterfully done V, this is one to be proud of. Have a bit'o rep (and rated).

Cheers,
-Arsheesh

vorropohaiah
08-13-2012, 02:59 AM
i think the colors are perfect. excellent map! /envy :)
thanks, i spent quite a while trying to get colours i was happy with (as the various versions in the WIP thread show) and im pleased with the end result.


Masterfully done V, this is one to be proud of. Have a bit'o rep (and rated).
thanks, though i cant see the rating :?

Eilathen
08-13-2012, 06:12 AM
Hey Vorropohaiah,

Do you think you could do this map in a equirectangular grid? Without the strong curvature of the grid and therefore map? I'd really like to see it in the (for me) normal projection.
Unfortunately, i have to spread around the love a bit before i can rep you again. But i am sure we will see many more gorgeous maps from you...so no problem ;)

vorropohaiah
08-13-2012, 06:35 AM
Hey Vorropohaiah,

Do you think you could do this map in a equirectangular grid? Without the strong curvature of the grid and therefore map? I'd really like to see it in the (for me) normal projection.

Sure, though its only in black/white, though it should give an idea of coastlines. However, some parts, particularly in the north a very distorted in the equirectangular version. I'll post it up once I get home

fifty
08-13-2012, 05:12 PM
Fantastic job! I love it!

I've one tiny comment that I'm sort of embarrassed to voice cause your so much better than me! ..it's the parchment effect on the legend / key, I think its a bit harsh and makes the smaller text a bit difficult to read.. should it not be the same parchment effect as the rest of the map was drawn on anyway, or were you going for a 'stuck on label' idea?

...anyway, an absolutely awesome job on this as all your maps - you must have the patience of several saints as far as I can tell!!! ;)

smashedsaturn
08-15-2012, 12:44 AM
Wow. Simply amazing the detail and complexity, it's... wonderful... it puts in perspective how much there is to learn.

vorropohaiah
08-15-2012, 03:19 AM
Do you think you could do this map in a equirectangular grid? Without the strong curvature of the grid and therefore map? I'd really like to see it in the (for me) normal projection.

here you go:
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I've one tiny comment that I'm sort of embarrassed to voice cause your so much better than me! ..it's the parchment effect on the legend / key, I think its a bit harsh and makes the smaller text a bit difficult to read.. should it not be the same parchment effect as the rest of the map was drawn on anyway, or were you going for a 'stuck on label' idea?

the idea with the cartouche was to make it look different to the rest of the map. the effect wi was going for was a mix between hand-painted and printed and my assumption was that the cartouche was a copperplate print on the map itself, though the texture can easily be toned down on the original PSD.

LindaJeanne
09-29-2012, 01:11 PM
this is amazing! Beautiful work.

battlestar
09-30-2012, 10:42 AM
Masterpiece indeed! I especially love your mountains.

LBruceGray
10-08-2012, 07:56 AM
Absolutely fantastic. I can only hope that my efforts will be as good someday...

Larnira
10-10-2012, 02:51 PM
Great job! We need more people like that!

sirsig
10-27-2012, 09:34 PM
Wow that is simply stunning work. Love the detail you've gone to :)

Schwarzkreuz
10-31-2012, 07:45 AM
I would like to have a print of this for my wall :D

vorropohaiah
11-01-2012, 03:06 PM
I would like to have a print of this for my wall :D

:D work on my new apartment is almost done and once i print it out i could have some copies made... though at that size im expeting them to be over 100€ each :p

thanks for the encouraging comments everyone :) makes the effort that much more worth it :)

Reverieweaver
11-06-2012, 08:43 AM
Gorgeous. Just fabulous!

Sinathor
11-11-2012, 12:18 AM
Truly amazing. Like, seriously! The amount of detail is staggering.

How well have you designed the areas themselves? Lore-wise, I mean.

vorropohaiah
11-11-2012, 03:32 AM
Truly amazing. Like, seriously! The amount of detail is staggering.

How well have you designed the areas themselves? Lore-wise, I mean.

thanks :) i have an encyclopaedia that's coming close to 600,000 words - some places are very well plotted and described while others are little more than an idea and name (for now). my main focus is the worldbuilding and the cartography came around as a way of showing what id done (ad it sure saves time when looking for places and measuring distances!)

Rhotherian
11-12-2012, 01:29 PM
This is incredibly cool. Astoundingly well done. ^^

I'm working on a similar project at the moment (a novel series / world building project), but it's pretty much sci-fi as apposed to fantasy (though it's kinda swords-and-sorcery sci-fi, if that makes any sense. Like Game of Thrones -esque, but with extraterrestrials on an alien planet). It also has a pretty intricate world, but not with THAT much detail (that that is kinda what I'm aiming for). :)

elTotih
11-12-2012, 03:02 PM
man that's amazing ! in a few years i could do such a map on my own but, i'm not sure :D

Astner
12-02-2012, 01:20 PM
How did you manage to curve the grid (geographical coordinates). I'm also making a map, but I can't for the life of me figure out how create those coordinates.

Ramah
12-02-2012, 01:29 PM
That right there, that is a beautiful map. :) Awesome work, well done. :)

kitchris
12-07-2012, 03:58 AM
Do you think that you could upload a picture of it somewhere else so i can see full res image of it. would love it so much

Great map tons of detail love it.

vorropohaiah
12-07-2012, 07:59 AM
Do you think that you could upload a picture of it somewhere else so i can see full res image of it. would love it so much

Great map tons of detail love it.

well, the only full res image I have is the PSD (which is still very much a work in progress... especially now that the only device i owned from which i could use photoshop is now kaput). the closest thing ton full i have are the four corner images on the first post on this thread. they can be stitched together pretty easily on most image manipulation software (i only had to divide the image due to the uploading restrictions on the site)

indigorising
12-11-2012, 11:09 AM
Beautiful! A work of art.

Lingon
12-14-2012, 05:22 PM
Hi! Just wanted to say that when I found these forums, this map kept me from checking out the rest of the site for a long time :) Couldn't stop looking at it. So amazing.

AzurePlanet
01-02-2013, 11:14 AM
All your works are really amazing!
I like specially the ancient hand-drawn style you are able to give them.

jrforesm
01-03-2013, 05:22 PM
This is incredible. Awesome work. Im really curious about your idea generation; are you following any sort of physical geography, like plate tectonics, to determine where your mountain ranges end up? And the names are awesome...

vorropohaiah
01-04-2013, 09:36 AM
This is incredible. Awesome work. Im really curious about your idea generation; are you following any sort of physical geography, like plate tectonics, to determine where your mountain ranges end up? And the names are awesome...

That's the one thing i 'regret' about this map - there was originally little thought to plate tectonics and i only started thinking about such things after the ranges and coasts and features had already become well-established (to me at least...). The original map, much like the story that presaged it, was made up as i went along, with little thought to such things as climate, wind belts, tectonics etc. Put it this way: I'd do things very differently if i was starting this project from scratch now. As I'm trying to make this a fantasy world thats as realistic as possible (economies, politics, governments etc.) despite having very strange fantasy elements (dead gods whose dreams warp the land, 'magic' etc.) and i think an easy way of grounding it in reality is making the world itself - the continents, coastlines, terrain, etc. as realistic as possible.

I did try retroactively changing some things to make them more realistic, like in Venthir - which i realised needed highlands/mountains to create a rainshadow effect to justify having the rather large Anubain desert S-W of its location. Though largely it remains unchanged (despite some glaring mistakes to do with climate and rainshadows), though I've tried to keep forests in plausable regions, while keeping in mind that its a largely deforested world. also, the world myths detailing creation and cosomogony are pretty much set in stone by now and I can always assume the world really was created by the gods, with plate tectonics beginning to take effect after that point (a few million years at most). what am i saying... the gods DID create the world! ;)

As an example of some of the changes I've devised, here are three attachments, representing river valleys and deposits, tectonics and biomes. there try to explain some of the land's features, though keep in mind they're based on a version of the map that isn't 100% up to date, though they're still helpful to look through while I'm writing.

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sawtoothls
01-19-2013, 11:21 AM
Absolutely amazing.

usbfc
04-26-2013, 03:23 PM
Fantastic map.

Basileus
05-01-2013, 01:20 PM
I had to join the site to say that this is the map I would really love to make once I progress far enough in constructing my world. 'Tis truly incredible.

If you took commissions I would throw oodles of money at you - oodles I say! :)


As it is, I'm going to have to mine this thread to pick up as much about your process as I can. The consideration for plate tectonics, climate, etc... is truly admirable (even if it was in hindsight - which isn't it always anyway, heh).

vorropohaiah
05-01-2013, 02:04 PM
thanks :) always nice to see people liking what i do. it helps with the motivation.

and in case youre interested, i do do commissions, so yo ucan start throwing the oodles my way :)

Basileus
05-01-2013, 02:15 PM
You just made my day, sir.

I'm probably at least several months away from having the kind of organized detail I'd like to have ready if I were to commission a piece, but what would be your preferred method to be contacted "properly" in the future? Through this site, or your blog, or something else...?

I will freely admit, commissioning a map would be a bit of a new experience for me. I have commissioned artwork before, but since mapping and worldbuilding are so intertwined, I'm sure the process for maps is a bit different than "normal" illustrations.

vorropohaiah
05-01-2013, 03:22 PM
Sounds interesting :). Send me an email: vehemer at hotmail . Com with any info you have & we can take it from there

Basileus
05-05-2013, 03:00 AM
I just shot you an email.

Just posting here as an FYI - I know some people don't check their email all that often unless they know they are waiting for something (I don't sometimes!).

I tried to provide the same sort of info I would have provided if I were posting in the Requests subforum, so you can decide if it is something you are interested in pursuing or not.

vorropohaiah
05-05-2013, 04:10 AM
thanks, replied :)

pickes500
03-17-2014, 01:35 PM
You said that you have a lore encyclopedia of over 600,000 words. Have you ever considered posting that? I'm as interested in the lore of this world as I am in the map. The map is incredible.

vorropohaiah
03-17-2014, 03:36 PM
Thanks Pickes500!

Well most of it is fairly unpolished: generally whenever i name somewhere new or come up with a new organisation or whatnot i enter it in the alphabetical entries, include pertinent notes (nation, region, dates etc so i can easily find it again) but don't flesh it out too much - i tend to go through phases, working largely on the map for a while and then going back to the encyclopaedia the bulking out the entries, making them presentable and changing the working to be a bit more classical.

One of the links in my sig leads to my blog, which has more details on the encyclopaedia. i urge you to subscribe if your'e interested sine this forum isn't exactly a worldbuilding forum i don't like to clutter up the threads with worldbuilding talk.