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ravells
09-03-2012, 06:20 PM
Infographic here. (http://collective-thoughts.com/wp-content/10000-hour-rule-gladwell-outliers1.png)

Cunning Cartographer
09-03-2012, 06:54 PM
Known about the 10,000hrs rule for a while, but I think the 7 Steps to Cheat the Rule are easily done just by being on this forum and trying to get involved. I've still a while to go myself to be the type of map illustrator I now want to be, but I've been using Photoshop for the last 14 years so I'm at least well on the way for knowing how to use my tools :)

Fransie
09-04-2012, 05:25 AM
So is teaching others good (cheat no. 6) or not good (upper right table, no.3)?

I guess whoever made the infograph hasn't spent 10.000 hours in practice...

ravells
09-04-2012, 05:36 AM
I wish there was a 'like' button on these forums. I'd 'like' Fransie's comment!

rdanhenry
09-04-2012, 10:33 PM
So is teaching others good (cheat no. 6) or not good (upper right table, no.3)?

I guess whoever made the infograph hasn't spent 10.000 hours in practice...

Kind of makes you doubt these are the guys to go to for help "cheating the rule" doesn't it?

EricPoehlsen
09-05-2012, 10:19 AM
Hmm, I just wonder: Why is 'teaching others' a 'no' in the top right but mentioned as way of cheating the 10.000 hour rule as well?

ravells, you can still give him rep :P

ravells
09-05-2012, 10:22 AM
Yeah but the problem with rep is that nobody else can see it!

waldronate
09-05-2012, 12:32 PM
Teaching others is good if you are teaching them things that you haven't fully mastered and so learn something from the experience. Teaching others is bad if you do it as a dull, repetitive routine from which you learn nothing new toward the skill (that is, it's not deliberate practice).

Schwarzkreuz
09-08-2012, 03:56 PM
As an instructor myself i can totally agree with waldronate. Tesching is Booth a Great way to stay fresh in your craft, but also to Be stuck in routinesitzung and Formulas.

priggs
09-14-2012, 10:12 PM
Here's an article that refutes the 10,000 hour rule:

The Curse of the 10,000-hour ‘Talent Syndrome’ (http://www.psychotactics.com/blog/art-talent-syndrome/)

After thinking about it, I agree with him.

waldronate
09-15-2012, 03:31 AM
The 10,000 hour rule is a ballpark figure to get to the point where you can be considered an expert and (often) make significant contributions to the field. The curse article is about being "merely competent", which takes much, much less time. As that article points out, I can probably learn to drive a car in 30 hours, but I will need a whole lot more than that to race competitively against professional drivers.

Similarly, I can learn computer programming (or cartography or carpentry) in 24 hours (or 7 days or 30 days or whatever the self-help book says), but I shouldn't expect to be able to generate useful and usable and sellable products at the end of that time. The best that I can hope for is to meet my immediate need. And for a lot of people, that's plenty good enough. I think that most of us here will agree that the more deliberate practice you make on a skill, the better you get; eventually you reach a point where you can turn out amazing products with little conscious effort. It's the practice, that gets you there, ingraining the important parts of the skill set into the non-conscious levels of your brain so that the higher levels are free to engage in the more interesting parts of the skill.