View Full Version : [Paid?] Mainland China - the future

Shannon Raisa Louden
09-29-2012, 09:35 PM
I am hoping to start a pathfinder campaign in the next couple of months. It will involve the PCs - who are survivors of a major natural disaster (a meteor strike) - awakening from their stasis chambers (akin to R.A.G.E.) several hundred thousand years after they were initially supposed to awaken.

They will find earth populated by an assortment of fantasy races and creatures that are, from their perspective, completely unnatural. I would like to set the campaign in the region that is currently Mainland China. This is also where the meteor strike impacted.

The above map shows, as a rough outline, the area that would be the crater of the impact location. Now if you extend and expand the border to make it more spherical, it will encompass much of the surrounding water as well as the region that is Mongolia.

I am not planning to release my setting to anyone but my players and friends, and as such will not be making money off it. I do, however, understand that people are more inclined to put time and effort into something that they will receive some sort of compensation for. As such, I might be able to offer some sort of monetary compensation. I would also be happy to offer the setting, once done, as well supply adventure logs.

Now, time for my request.
I would like someone to be able to make me a map (or rather, several) of the region after the meteoric impact. I have left all but absolute essential details up to the map maker. The only things I need to be definitively included are rivers, the steep walls as a result of the impact as well as the impact site at the very center of the 'crater'.
I would hope to be able to get the map both a shaded and unshaded natural looking style from birds-eye perspective, a greyscale 'heightmap' of the region, and optionally a more stylised map of the region which would be useful to the players.

I understand this might seem like a complex task, but if anyone, at all, is able to help I would greatly appreciate it!

If anyone would like to contact me privately, they can send me an email to my gmail account. The gmail user ID is my first name (dot) my surname.

Shannon Raisa Louden
10-05-2012, 07:26 AM
So it seems no one is able to, or wishes to, help.
Oh well, thank you all anyway

10-05-2012, 09:00 PM
It might help if you link to examples of the styles you want, and perhaps draw on top of the above map the general size and placement of the crater.

10-06-2012, 02:20 AM
Hi Shannon,
first of all welcome to the guild - when you put up a request you have to give people time to peruse it. I know you're probably anxious to get on with it but it can take a long time to get a request filled (and some never does). The map you linked to doesn't load on my computer so I can't see it. Also as Chashio states, examples of what styles you'd like would be good - you can look through the finished map section for something you like.
Making a map takes a long time and can be hard to find the time to in ones busy lifes, so examples of styles can help in calculating how big a project this is.

Good luck on your campaign and I hope you get your map :)

10-06-2012, 03:21 AM
I don't know how technically accurate you want to be, or if you've already calculated the effects and extent of the meteor impact, but I found these sites very interesting.

Shannon Raisa Louden
10-06-2012, 09:46 AM
Thank you for your responses people
As far as style goes, I am not really too fussed. Any potentially interested cartographer has free reign. I do not even need the bump map - I was originally going to do a 3d rendering, but that is unneeded.

It does not need to be atlas styled, it can use virtually any style (and if someone is interested in the project, and has a particular style in mind but they are unsure if it is desired, a simple query solves that). The most important aspect is having a scale and showing the other terrain features

Thank you to all who have responded. I appologise if I have seemed snappy. I have had a lot going on in real life that has had most of my attention and left me a little frayed.

10-10-2012, 01:57 PM
Not a project I can tackle, but maybe I can help define it. You want ALL of China to be obliterated by a crater? That big an impact would probably crack the Earth, and would of a certainty remove all life other than cockroaches and kudzu - and those only in a remote valley in the new Bahama Range.

If all you need is for there to be EFFECTS across all of China, I could see a "merely" few dozen km crater, and a whole bunch of ejecta across thousands of km radius. I know, I know - you don't need realism to have a fun campaign. Still - some of your potential mappers would not be able to get past the implausibility factor and enjoy the cartography. 'Cause to get even a nibble, it has to sound like a fun project.

Now there's all KINDS of possibilities, if you tweak the parameters. Say a glancing blow, a ricochet that rung the whole ball like a bell, threw teratons of planet into orbit (nice new set of rings you have there) (kilometers-thick 'loose' material in one direction down-strike, for the new dwarves (?) to mine in), temporarily blew away half the atmosphere and a kilometer's depth of ocean (seriously diminished percent water surface, climate weirdness, waaaaay new coastlines) and generally ruined everyone's day.

What you want is massive mayhem, without transfer of cosmic levels of energy all the way INTO Earth. [dub in sound of cracking coconut] What I described would probably take a chunk seriously less than the size of Kanchenjunga or Kalamazoo. There's a reason kinetic energy strikes are a serious weapon in science fiction.

[long time later] Okay, not splitting the whole globe, but Really Bad News nonetheless. Fair warning, if you fool around with the Purdue Earth Impact calculator (http://www.purdue.edu/impactearth/), you'll spend an inordinate amount of time throwing big rocks at the planet and seeing what happens. :-) To get a crater thousands of km across, I had to dial the asteroid up to hundreds of km across. Based on the effects it describes, kudzu *probably* survives. Vertibrates... might not. Richter 13+ on the other side of the planet....

From a mapping standpoint just how long after awakening do you want the map to be? And is it neutral omniscient observer/ gamemaster viewpoint, or in-game in-character viewpoint? The former could be any style under the sun. The latter would be (I'm guessing) nothing but an overprint on an existing Asia map as the awaken-ees put their energy toward rebuilding instead of surveying, if soon after. If a century or two later, maybe there's a whole new set of needs, standards, and methods in play, and one could believe an atlas style, or other labor-intensive data-intensive view... one that need not match Rand McNally or National Geographic. Or shoot, maybe the refugees from the past are so homesick it's been worth the effort to put a familiar spin on the new landscape. Centauroid/elvish trade routes in the style of an A-Z road atlas. (http://www.az.co.uk/) Dwarven tunnels in the style of London Transport Tube maps. (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/14091.aspx) Or pull-down school maps (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=pull+down+map&_frs=1) with overprint in Sharpie showing the alterations.

If you give us a good tale, there'll be more to hang a map on - you're talking some serious imagination at work, so a kick-start might a) get us going in the direction you intend and b) get us intrigued with your project. So homework: next post is 10-15 paragraphs of background and/or narrative :-). Hey, if you work it out now, you'll be in better shape for the campaign, ja?

Have you considered doing these yourself? It's not a totally insurmountable obstacle, and you'd get something that lines up with your creative vision. Or do you Klingons just not do maps? :-)

Too bad you didn't propose this a bunch of months ago when the map contest was 'map a disaster'.