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MadLetter
05-22-2008, 05:29 PM
Quite some long time ago I posted on this board a thread about my project regarding a 4th Edition D&D Setting with many many maps. Well, I have begun, but with a new approach...

Take a look for yourself, guys :)

Hope you like what you see... more will follow as work progresses. Anyone interested in fluff concerning the world, may ask freely :)


The world is called Tolon, btw... still a working title ;)

Normski
05-22-2008, 05:58 PM
Nice, clean map. shows what a "continental style" or large scale map would.

I really enjoy looking at the maps like this, ones made by others where the skills and craft shown so well here at CG are used. If anything it makes me realise that I have more to learn, so much more, though when i go to other sites and see other peoples efforts, I realise mine ain't that bad. But I digress, let's return to your map.

Purely from the style of the lettering and the names, it is evocative of Japan. Is it the same size as the land of the rising sun, or is it bigger or smaller, an idea of scale would be useful for the viewer. I'd also like to see more than just the one settlement marked.

Unlike me, you have resisted the urge to over-complicate things or add too much detail. Getting the right balance between not enough and too much information, is difficult, no - it is an art, and something you do better than I have so far.

Keep it up.

Norm

MadLetter
05-22-2008, 06:06 PM
Thanks for the comment! :)

The continent shown in close-up shall be reminiscent of japan, as I try to partly emulate their culture on this continent (which my players will NOT start upon). As for scale... I don`t have a clue myself right now ;)

The other continent will be more european from a style-PoV.
Also the details are not finished... I still need to add major towns and woodlands (which I still think about how to do best).


EDIT:
Anyone got a good idea for the measurements?

Baziron
05-23-2008, 11:53 AM
Hm, looks good. Quite "comic" in style, but I like it.

Tho' I think I found some severe issues concerning the majority of the prographers favourite pet peeve ;-)

Midgardsormr
05-23-2008, 01:09 PM
Very nice style! I like your color choices and the look of your lines.

Based on the disposition of the mountains on your main landmass, I'd expect your big island to be around 150 miles at its widest point--from the marked city to the end of the cape west-southwest.

That would make the large landmass a bit larger than the peninsula containing Burma, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Malaysia.

That may be a bit small for you, though, with your big island having probably just a little bit more land area than the island of Hokkaido in Japan.

MadLetter
05-25-2008, 10:52 AM
Most recent Image :)

MadLetter
05-27-2008, 11:23 AM
Newest Update.

Right now Im working on the mainland northern part, specifically the mountains. Just taking a break after colouring them... details and surrounding hilly terrain comes soon.

NOTE:
I cannot upload the picture, the forum does not let me. When I upload the JPEG (nearly 3 MB), I get a white-screen in the upload-window. Any suggestions?

Karro
05-27-2008, 11:59 AM
Most recent Image :)

The map (or the completed portions) looks great, so far.

I have one question: How did you do that beautiful lettering? Is it hand lettered, or done with a font?

Only quibble: there's a lot of dead-space at the bottom of the map. Are you planning on using this? If not, it might be better to cut out the extra empty ocean. EDIT: Nevermind... that empty space comment is based on the "most recent image", which is a zoom. Taking a look back at the full map, it looks like the main continent dips quite far down into that empty space.

MadLetter
05-27-2008, 12:07 PM
Yup the continent fills most of the north-south length, the lower part of the left side will eventually contain some additional information.

Thanks for the compliment btw! :) Encourages me to get working again :D

The lettering is made by a font (although I also have a good handwriting ;] ) called AquilineTwo, which fits quite well with the whole image.

I wish I could post a most recent update, but somehow this site does not like me doing this :(

Karro
05-27-2008, 12:11 PM
The lettering is made by a font (although I also have a good handwriting ;] ) called AquilineTwo, which fits quite well with the whole image.

I wish I could post a most recent update, but somehow this site does not like me doing this :(

Do tell. Where do you obtain AquilineTwo, and at what price?

I'm new here, so I don't know much about whether there's an update limit or what. I'm still learning, too...

ravells
05-27-2008, 12:32 PM
Newest Update.

Right now Im working on the mainland northern part, specifically the mountains. Just taking a break after colouring them... details and surrounding hilly terrain comes soon.

NOTE:
I cannot upload the picture, the forum does not let me. When I upload the JPEG (nearly 3 MB), I get a white-screen in the upload-window. Any suggestions?

Hi Madletter, I can't think why your image is not uploading. I'll bring it up with the other community helpers and Arcana, I'm sure one of them will be able to find a fix.

Cheers

Ravs

MadLetter
05-27-2008, 12:32 PM
I got it from work, but the interwebs state it's free for personal use. If used commercially, it might be different, though... :)

MadLetter
05-27-2008, 12:34 PM
Thanks ravells.

Might someone eventually give me his e-mail so he could upload it here for me? >_<

Also I found the website of the designer of the AquillineTwo font:

LINK (http://manfred-klein.ina-mar.com/)

Seems if you want to use it commercially, you have to donate to some organization... :)

MadLetter
05-28-2008, 02:59 PM
I still can't post the pictures, which by now angering me a little -_-

Anyone knows a good location where I can freely upload large pictures? (Jpeg right now is about 3.5 MB)



EDIT: I splitted the map up in different parts. Hope this works. Reference to my first post, the big map, as to what is where.

Also of six map-parts, I can only get two up. Anything else yields me a database error *Grumble*

MadLetter
05-28-2008, 03:30 PM
Another two.

MadLetter
06-12-2008, 11:56 AM
FINALLY!

Cut the picture into a better size. The Hajien part of the map is missing (the isles to the west), but the mainland in it's current state is present :D

Enjoy and gimme a few costructive criticisms, please! :D

The-Somberlain
06-12-2008, 12:10 PM
Very nice technique. Simple but illustrative enough. I am a little concerned with the desert and broken lands colors. They stand out too much. Maybe less opacity or something...

Other than that great font, nice names...Bravo!

MadLetter
06-12-2008, 12:23 PM
Thanks for the praise and constructive thoughts! :)

The Desert and Broken Lands are both still not really done. I just painted them on the map so I have the location set. Everything (terrain-wise) above the Dawnforge Mountains is 99% done. Below nearly nothing as of yet :)

jfrazierjr
06-12-2008, 06:59 PM
First, I love the color pallete. Very nice colors together. One thing I don't like is the contrasting styles with the hand drawn mountains and the texture fill for the forests (and to a lesser extend the dark lands). To me, it just does not mesh well in my mind.

Joe

Ascension
06-12-2008, 08:01 PM
I stop by a website called DaFont.com, that's where I get most of my free fonts from (some 12,000 now although I can not use all of them at the same time because most programs will only load so many). So I rename them with a prefix and sort them according to style...GO- for gothic, GR- for grunge, HW- for handwritten, etc. and when I'm working in a certain style I just copy the needed fonts into the correct fonts subfolder in the windows folder then delete and add new ones when I change projects or styles.

MadLetter
06-12-2008, 11:19 PM
First, I love the color pallete. Very nice colors together. One thing I don't like is the contrasting styles with the hand drawn mountains and the texture fill for the forests (and to a lesser extend the dark lands). To me, it just does not mesh well in my mind.

Thanks for the compliment, I think I found mostly the right colours.

As for mountains and textures: Any suggestions? I found applying the noise effect to forests the most viable method of producing forests that look good.
Also the mountains... I really don't know how else to do them :) Suggestions welcome! ;)





I stop by a website called DaFont.com, that's where I get most of my free fonts from (some 12,000 now although I can not use all of them at the same time because most programs will only load so many). So I rename them with a prefix and sort them according to style...GO- for gothic, GR- for grunge, HW- for handwritten, etc. and when I'm working in a certain style I just copy the needed fonts into the correct fonts subfolder in the windows folder then delete and add new ones when I change projects or styles.

Uhm... this shall not sound offensive, but what does this have to do with my map? :)

jfrazierjr
06-12-2008, 11:40 PM
Thanks for the compliment, I think I found mostly the right colours.

As for mountains and textures: Any suggestions? I found applying the noise effect to forests the most viable method of producing forests that look good.
Also the mountains... I really don't know how else to do them :) Suggestions welcome! ;)


For this style map, with hand drawn mountains, I would probably just use solid colors to represent your forests, and either hand draw tiny "trunks" or add a tiny bit of drop shadow to indicate height, depending on scale. You could add a small bit of very lightly fuzzy brush strokes with the brush tool to give a bit of illusion of the trees having some height variations. Take a look at http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=1990 for an example from RobA. Also, someone else had a recent post in the past few days in color with similar style hand drawn forests.

Also, one of the things I have been playing with a lot in the past few days for hand drawn mountains is using the smudge tool within GIMP. In the featured map section this map comes from http://www.cartographersguild.com/feature/ManthriaMap.jpg, has a link to a GREAT tutorial off site for how to make this style of map. Now, I know your map is not this style, but I really like the artists style of using the smudge tool to blend and I have been getting some great results with B/W hand drawn mountains using his technique. Not sure how well it will work with color, but if you like it, it may help blend the hard lines a bit better where your mountain meets the flats. It takes a bit of practice, and is a lot easier with a tablet and pen, but it can be done with a mouse if you take time and care.

Of course, this is just my opinion and suggestions, so it won't hurt my feelings if you don't them. I am just kind of anal about side view mountains and top view forests on the same map. Most of the time, it just does not look right to me.

Joe

Midgardsormr
06-12-2008, 11:48 PM
There's a disconnect between the very fine detail of your labels, rivers and forests, and the wide, fuzzy lines of your coasts and mountains. I'm not sure if there's an "easy" way to fix that. Trouble is, they're almost begging to be redrawn, but I rather like the style you started with more than the one you've ended up with.