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EhudbenGera
06-09-2008, 10:15 PM
Heh, after reading some of the other introductions, I feel a little out of place. Most people in the intros are either trying to just begin to know maps, or have been mapping for years and just discovered this place. I suppose I could fit in the second category, though I would never have considered myself part of it.

My reasons for joining are much more pragmatic. A guy by the moniker of Treslo Kresha over on the DNDOG forums pointed me over here. I've been looking through the tutorials for a few days now, and found that I kept getting frustrated when the links and attachments blocked me for not being registered. So I registered. Don't know how much I'm planning on posting, though...

So why the interest? Well, I've always been interested in maps (I used to say that you could tell if a book was good by whether or not it had a map in the front), and I'm learning to procedurally create maps in Gimp, from world-size to city-size. I find that I can occasionally figure things out on my own, but it really helps to have the immense amount of aid that is offered on these forums.

I've created a few larger-scale maps, but I'm kind of stumped when I get to cities. Here's my current map:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1674/anideadx6.th.jpg

The cities are the white blobs. Any pointers?

jfrazierjr
06-09-2008, 11:02 PM
Heh, after reading some of the other introductions, I feel a little out of place. Most people in the intros are either trying to just begin to know maps, or have been mapping for years and just discovered this place. I suppose I could fit in the second category, though I would never have considered myself part of it.

My reasons for joining are much more pragmatic. A guy by the moniker of Treslo Kresha over on the DNDOG forums pointed me over here. I've been looking through the tutorials for a few days now, and found that I kept getting frustrated when the links and attachments blocked me for not being registered. So I registered. Don't know how much I'm planning on posting, though...

So why the interest? Well, I've always been interested in maps (I used to say that you could tell if a book was good by whether or not it had a map in the front), and I'm learning to procedurally create maps in Gimp, from world-size to city-size. I find that I can occasionally figure things out on my own, but it really helps to have the immense amount of aid that is offered on these forums.

I've created a few larger-scale maps, but I'm kind of stumped when I get to cities. Here's my current map:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1674/anideadx6.th.jpg

The cities are the white blobs. Any pointers?

Welcome to the guild EhudbenGera. Unfortunately, the map is too small to really get any detail out of as far was being able to provide pointers, at least for me. In case you did not know, you can upload up to a 3-4 MB jpg file which can get you a fairly high resolution. The process is to use the Advanced editing feature and then use Manage Attachments link to upload the image to the site. The site will even make a smaller size thumbnail and link to the full size image for your automagically.

Joe

Joe

NeonKnight
06-09-2008, 11:21 PM
Welcome aboard, lots of Gimp users here to help you out. Look around and feel free to ask.

EhudbenGera
06-09-2008, 11:40 PM
Welcome to the guild EhudbenGera. Unfortunately, the map is too small to really get any detail out of as far was being able to provide pointers, at least for me. In case you did not know, you can upload up to a 3-4 MB jpg file which can get you a fairly high resolution. The process is to use the Advanced editing feature and then use Manage Attachments link to upload the image to the site. The site will even make a smaller size thumbnail and link to the full size image for your automagically.

Joe

Joe

Thanks for the welcome! Hmm, I had thought that the pic was also a link... So here's the link, as well:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1674/anideadx6.jpg

ravells
06-10-2008, 02:19 AM
Welcome to the Guild, Ehudbengera!

jfrazierjr
06-10-2008, 10:55 AM
Thanks for the welcome! Hmm, I had thought that the pic was also a link... So here's the link, as well:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1674/anideadx6.th.jpg

Yep, but even the linked picture is reeeeally teeny tiny. Like maybe 150 x 150 px or so..

Joe

RobA
06-10-2008, 11:06 AM
Correct link is http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1674/anideadx6.jpg (drop the .th.)


OK. Fixing the link led me to see the rivers.....

They are all backward. Rivers merge as they flow down hill. They never (still waiting for a real world example) split and flow off in different directions. When they do split because of an obstruction, the rejoin as soon as the terrain lets them.

Since this is your first River Violation(tm) I won't be handing out a ticket... but I'm watching you... :P

[second Edit:] Looked again... maybe they aren't all backwards? If so, they seem to dead-end....

-Rob A>

waldronate
06-10-2008, 11:28 AM
That map style doesn't show rivers going through forests is all. Otherwise it looks like a fairly standard river network flowing out of a large lake on the right to a delta at the top left.

RobA
06-10-2008, 11:48 AM
I think you are correct. I was suffering from optical inversionitis, and was seeing the forested valleys as hills...

-Rob A>

EhudbenGera
06-10-2008, 09:57 PM
So am I still guilty of a River Violation (tm)?

And thanks for the link help.

RobA
06-11-2008, 11:47 AM
No, not at all :D Didn't mean to frighten you off or anything :)

Nice rivers. Good rivers. RobA happy. :P

(As a bit of explanation... We get many, many newcomers posting maps where rivers branch. So much that it became a bit of a pet peeve of mine. I gained a bit of a reputation as a sticker for improbable rivers, hence my self designation as "River Police".)

-Rob A>

Dracontes
06-12-2008, 07:02 AM
Sorry but I just had to jump in when I read this:



They are all backward. Rivers merge as they flow down hill. They never (still waiting for a real world example) split and flow off in different directions. When they do split because of an obstruction, the rejoin as soon as the terrain lets them.


I think there is such a thing as distributary rivers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributary) on Earth and a very famous case is Casiquiare [natural] canal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casiquiare) linking the Orinoco and Amazon drainage basins. I concede it's not a common feature but it does exist. However this other case (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Two_Ocean_Creek) just blew my mind (figuratively speaking ;) ).

RobA
06-12-2008, 11:01 AM
Thanks for wikipedia link. I think it confirms the point that this if by far the exception, rather than the norm, and tend to be a highly unstable configuration the doesn't last long (geologically speaking) if there is any significant water flow unless there is intervention.

I was unaware of the Casiquiare. Very interesting case!

-Rob A>

EhudbenGera
06-12-2008, 09:24 PM
Wow, I didn't expect my map to spark this sort of discussion! Really cool, though, especially if you follow some of the links for North Two Oceans Creek. I've sometimes wondered if there was a place like that along the Great Divide.