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Pablo Diablo
06-30-2008, 02:18 PM
So, wanted to post and get some feedback on this WIP.

In short: A runequest-based, thieves' world inspired campaing, taking place in a venice-inspired city. The GM provided me with a hand-drawn sketch, which detailed the major water routes and islands, and I've been running with it since then, with some input from him.

Notes that haven't made it onto this map yet:

SCALE: is actually half that shown (scale bar will total ~ 1/2 mile, or 2500 feet)

CITY DEFENSES: Three towers along Cellini's Passage, with cannon (the game is set with early era firearms), as well as the request for some sort of naval base on the marshy peninsula, which I am having trouble justifying...

DOCKS and WHARVES: need to add a good number of these to the northernmost islands and along "The Stench" (i.e. where the Tanners, Brewers, etc live and work - a loosely built slum)

NAMING: "River Cordam" needs to be something more Italian, as does "Gandra" (the name of a fictional witch, for which the disease-carrying swamp was named)

Thoughts?
PD

NeonKnight
06-30-2008, 02:39 PM
It is certainly a very evocative map. I can't wait to see the finished product.

ravells
06-30-2008, 06:57 PM
I second what Neon said. Very evocative and some beautiful composition work and colour.

Ascension
06-30-2008, 07:25 PM
I generally approach things from the aesthetic whole point of view and the colors here make me drool...superb. The only thing I saw that struck me as odd was some of the, I assume to be, mountains (gray things) stop abruptly at the water line; I'd fade them out a bit. If they aren't mountains then forget what I just said :)

ravells
06-30-2008, 07:34 PM
What is interesting here is that I usually don't like saturated colours on a map, (although I spend my life trying to find the exception to prove the rule) but in this instance they have been used really well and make the map look really rich.

Pablo Diablo
06-30-2008, 07:49 PM
Ascension & Ravells-

Thanks! Actually, the land mass started out with much *more* vibrant colors... I kept looking at it, saying "something's just /not working/..."

Then I added a desaturation layer over all of the land (land base, marsh texture and cloud texture) and finally said, "....aaaaaahhhh."

As for the "mountains"- Not so much mountains as rock outcroppings - with the marshland on the coast, theres probably not a lot of elevation in the immediate surroundings, but there might be a few areas of rocky hills, helping to divide (retain?) the water table. I don't think any of the "hills" are more than 50-100 feet tall... All very low... At least, those were my initial impulses

So, for example - look at the outcropping just NW of "The Stench" - it fades up from the surrounding grassland as it proceeds NW, implying (to me) a gentle rise from grass and dirt to rocky hillside. Then, yes, it stops abruptly at the river, which (again, to me) implies a very small cliff or bluff overlooking the waterway.

Does that make sense, or do you have any ideas on how to make that more apparent?

PD

landorl
06-30-2008, 07:53 PM
Are the islands going to be connected to the mainland by bridges? I see some of the islands are connected, but I didn't see them connected to the mainland.

Ascension
06-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Makes perfect sense so disregard what I said (except the drooling part).

Skycast
06-30-2008, 08:11 PM
I second, third and fourth the sentiments already stated here. I can't wait to see how this progresses, the detail is lush and inspiring. Just studying this map makes me think that countless hours of roleplaying can be packed into this "small" area.

Clercon
07-02-2008, 07:00 PM
I must say I really like this map. Looking forward to se it evolve.

Pablo Diablo
08-01-2008, 03:39 PM
OK. Here's the next stage...

Not sure I'm crazy about the style/placement of labels for the individual islands... I'm going to continue working on that.

Also a few small notes (change the "ship" verbage to "vessel", etc)...

Those two pairs of feet near Cellini's passage? The GM wanted evidence of the "First Peoples", and suggested the remains of a couple of Colossi at the harbor's entrance. Voila. And a "modern" fort built into the plinth of one of them as well, helping to defend the city from sea-bound attacks.

The GM also requested that there not be too many bridges - many of the spans are too large for "modern" technology to cross. The one loooooong bridge is a leftover from the same "First Peoples" as the Colossi - Most of the populace moves between islands via small boat.

Thoughts?
PD

Tancread
08-01-2008, 08:57 PM
I really like the look of the built up cities on the islands, it did make me wonder what they do there to live? Merchants? The color is great on the map and I think it should make a great game map!

Pablo Diablo
08-06-2008, 01:42 PM
Thanks.

Yes, taking (some) inspiration from Venice - another canal based city, this city is centered around trade - they have decent ship-yards (located in the satellite town of Cincarra, across the Bay of Jewels). The GM has written up some background/history, and minor details of the islands, which I'll post when I get the map finished.

PD

landorl
08-08-2008, 03:35 PM
I like the broken statue at the mouth of the harbor. It is reminiscent of the Colossus of Rhodes. It's a great touch.

Paul
08-09-2008, 12:09 PM
Great palette!

I wonder about the ocean-going ship limit, though. Even today, aircraft carriers can travel by river to Philly, and back in the day, ships could sail quite a distance up major rivers.