View Full Version : October 2013 entry - The Mirror (Ireland-Erin)

- Max -
10-09-2013, 09:09 AM
Kilmore, Ireland, 1703. Seamus Callan, a young student of history / folklore traditional discovered in an ancient tumulus a stone engraved with strange hypnotic patterns. A night of Samhain, when he looks at it too long, the young Seamus is transported out of time in an Ireland he reckognizes with his knowledge of Celtic folklore: Erin, the green island of the Tuatha De Danan and mythical heros, a fantastic land populated with warriors of legends, gods and magical creatures.

The maps will consist of an Ireland map in a classic late 17th/early 18th century and a fantasy and fictionnal map of Erin (former name of Ireland). First step with the historical map.



- Max -
10-09-2013, 11:30 AM
Provinces and Counties borders added, mountains added.



- Max -
10-09-2013, 05:47 PM
Updated with land labels (except rivers)



10-09-2013, 06:41 PM
Dangit, this is looking great. It reminds me I need to find time to work on mine.

10-09-2013, 07:24 PM
Holy sh!t, Max. You never fail to impress me.

10-09-2013, 08:50 PM
Wow Max, you're so damn quick. Looks like this is going to be a lovely piece.


10-09-2013, 11:20 PM
Beautiful, Max. I look forward to seeing the Erin version.

- Max -
10-10-2013, 03:26 AM
Thanks much guys! Well still have some job on this one :D

- Max -
10-10-2013, 08:34 AM
Updated with main rivers/lakes labels, bay/harbours/islands/seas labels. Also added some very light weathered smudges.



10-10-2013, 09:08 AM
Looking great!

10-10-2013, 11:24 AM
Wow, impressive work.

- Max -
10-10-2013, 11:44 AM
Thank you guys. I think I can call the first map done.



10-10-2013, 12:20 PM
Now that is just simply stunning. I am curious... What factors did you consider in choosing places to label?

- Max -
10-10-2013, 12:51 PM
Thanks Chasio :) On this one I started with all cities/towns labels, placed on circled icon side. Then I put the counties labels and colored provinces labels. Since those ones are the harder to locate, I moved cities/towns labels when I had to, to make room for those labels. It's kind of building a puzzle, my main goal being not having labels overlapping one with each other (If I was able to avoid overlapping with other map elements I tried to do it but if not I let them overlap borders, rivers and this kind of stuff) Of course all of this is also impacted by lenght of names - and sometimes with odd personnal taste like : "hmm for some reason this label fits better here to my eyes. let's go" :D .
Then I added rivers labels, and finally all coastlines labels.

10-10-2013, 01:20 PM
Yep, wonderful ! Put it under glass and you could believe looking at an historical map !

by arsheesh
Yep, wonderful ! Put it under glass and you could believe looking at an historical map !

Indeed, I just remember having a look at the start... And one day later, you've done this map... Not all machine are so damn quick and even vampires are sleeping !

- Max -
10-10-2013, 02:02 PM
Thanks Ilanthar!

Indeed, I just remember having a look at the start... And one day later, you've done this map... Not all machine are so damn quick and even vampires are sleeping !

:D Well Ireland is not that big!

10-11-2013, 05:54 PM
Cool! Thanks for the explanation :D you do such a nice job labeling, and there are so many labels, it's difficult to pick out everything that makes it work so well. I'll definitely be giving myself some labeling homework in the future. I know I downloaded a pdf on the subject at one point... buried in my hdd somewhere.

I have another part to my question now... mainly a curiosity because I have friends who live near Ballymena... and it's not on your map. Were towns like that too small (population-wise) or is it just that they would clutter up the more important places of note that you didn't include them?

10-12-2013, 01:17 AM
Fantastic map, it really catches the feeling of an old-style map.

- Max -
10-12-2013, 07:46 AM
Thanks Sap, glad to see I managed to hit my goal on this first map :)

Chasio, thanks, I always like labeling maps and this one was pretty fun to do. Concerning your latest question, I used some old 18th century maps as references and I could see that their accuracy about cities/towns (and geographic elements like coastlines or rivers for instance) was pretty "flexible" sometimes. So I wanted to keep that kind of thing on this map, therefore there's probably some towns missing or some small cities located while some bigger aren't on the map .

- Max -
10-13-2013, 10:46 AM
Alright, time to take a look through the mirror, with the map of Erin. I'll go with a "naive" fantasy style to have contrast with the Ireland historical map. I started with basic textures, mountains and rivers.


10-13-2013, 12:07 PM
This is looking amazing, Max! I noticed that the mountains' shadows are on the other side in the Erin map, don't know if that was intentional but I think it's a really nice touch, subtly emphasizing the mirror theme :)

- Max -
10-14-2013, 08:54 AM
Went more on lands coloring/texturing and added forests. Also added some waves thingies on the sea (removed the texture on the sea, which was a bit heavy for the style).

@Lingon : :D You're probably the one that noticed that!


10-14-2013, 09:11 AM
Very nice. I think the coast line - the outer border of the land shape - looks a little bit too sharp compared to the other map elements which seem to be softer.

- Max -
10-14-2013, 12:56 PM
Thanks Sapiento, I agree with the coastlines. I softened them a bit, updated with some labels and I also gave it a contrast shot, I found it was too "flat" for the style.


10-14-2013, 01:24 PM
Yes, much better!

10-14-2013, 01:40 PM
Wow, another amazing map.

I agree with Sapiento, the softer coastlines look better.

10-14-2013, 03:19 PM
Are you sure, you want to have two rivers originating from one lake?

- Max -
10-14-2013, 03:55 PM
Yes I actually connected two rivers of my sketch, I'll fix it, thanks for the input :)

10-14-2013, 06:04 PM
Outstanding! I love both styles equally, this is a great project to see develop :)
If I can manage to find the time, you have inspired me to partake in the challenge!


- Max -
10-15-2013, 10:46 AM
Thanks JSP! Alright I think I'm pretty much done. Added some details and labels, compass, title and border. So here's the two sides of the mirror:

### LATEST WIP ###

58416 58417

I also attached the two maps joined in one file (though with size reduced a bit):


10-15-2013, 02:08 PM
Max, that is among my top three favorites of your maps. It's really just perfect.

I think you've destroyed my motivation to finish my entry though. :D

10-15-2013, 02:44 PM
Have to agree with Diamond, these are outstanding!

- Max -
10-16-2013, 03:28 AM
Thanks much guys!

@Diamond : Nooooooooooo! Finish that second map!!!! :D

10-16-2013, 02:01 PM
this looks very good Max, especially the left one, really authentic look n feel. The labelling is just perfect (incl. the font, which one is that if i may ask?) cheers, DJ

10-16-2013, 04:37 PM
man... these are great! I can't even find time to do a single stupid map!

10-16-2013, 05:00 PM
I like both maps, you did a great job !

- Max -
10-17-2013, 03:34 AM
Thank you guys :)
@DJ : thanks! The fonts used on the left map are from Im fell family, Im fell english for cities/rivers/counties labels, Imfell doubla pica for provinces and sea labels. I also used Parma Petit for the title.

10-17-2013, 02:48 PM
thanks, I have to try those fonts too!

- Max -
10-17-2013, 05:08 PM
No problem DJ, yes those ones are pretty useful when it's time to map some oldies

10-21-2013, 05:26 PM
Great maps both.! No thumb though ! Needs (### LATEST WIP ###) you only have one # .

- Max -
10-21-2013, 06:00 PM
Thanks Losatsea, good catch, I changed it :)

10-30-2013, 01:13 PM
These are great Max!

You need another post with just the double map so the latest WIP thing will pick it up

- Max -
10-30-2013, 02:27 PM
Thanks Bogie, here we go :)

### LATEST WIP ###


10-31-2013, 12:19 AM
Still only coming up as one of the two pictures in the Challenge Thumbnails. The 2 maps have to be combined into 1 single image for the ###Latest### thing to pick it up.

- Max -
10-31-2013, 04:22 AM
I hope it's ok now since the forum don't want to keep capitalized letters

### latest wip ###