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Arcana
07-23-2008, 03:56 PM
Since I am starting my 4E campaign with a modified version of Keep on the Shadowfell...I couldn't use the maps included because they don't jive with my campaign setting...some places had to be renamed of course...AND...I didn't' get to do the maps until last minute before the last session...basically these two maps combined were a total of about 2 hours worth of work.

Style wise, I was pretty heavily influenced by torstans hand drawn work...mainly color-wise, but since I'm color blind, it didn't work out very well for the city map...

Anyways, these maps are originally part of the Keep on the Shadowfell, but I changed em enough to make em mine. Whatcha think?

NeonKnight
07-23-2008, 04:43 PM
I think your Northwynd looks similar to my Stormhaven ;)

Arcana
07-23-2008, 04:47 PM
HAHAH! Nice...I edited the text of your post for comedic value.

NeonKnight
07-23-2008, 04:51 PM
You'll need to start thinking of where to place Thunderspire (H2)

Arcana
07-23-2008, 04:54 PM
Nope...after the keep, I'm deviating from this path and moving on to my own campaign path...here's the plot setup:



It has been a time of peace for many years. The Aregean conflict brought about the end of the Aurellian Empire which began with noble goals and a strong heart, but eventually its thirst for power led to an end fitting only for tyrants. Three kings have since reigned, and peace has been maintained in the kingdom for over 200 years. But King Dered Fahlin grows old, and times are changing as a new threat arises that defies conventional solutions.

Sages and seers, scholars of the heavens, have seen a strange phenomenon taking place in the skies above Arsala. The divine moons are deviating from their paths and causing environmental chaos. Harsh weather, rising tides, earthquakes, tsunamis and other natural disasters are becoming more commonplace. There is talk amongst the people that the gods are planning to align and rain fire and destruction on Arsala to cleanse it of its past transgressions.

No one knows why the god moons are changing their orbits. Perhaps Aran is finally letting go of his hold on the perfect order of the universe. Perhaps the eight gods themselves are indeed preparing to deliver a great cleansing to the world. Whatever the reason, these are dark times.

Adventurers are needed more than ever to bring light where there is darkness.


Tell me what ya think.

NeonKnight
07-23-2008, 05:07 PM
Sounds pretty cool. I am sooooo time strapped, I am stealing the adventure mods, because, well, less work ;) But they are certainly getting reworked (maps and all for Thunderspire).

Here is something I did for my campaign when it started:


Empire of Karhielorhn

Knowledge History: DC 15
The ancient Empire of Karhielorhn fell into ruin approximately 250 years ago. It was an empire that spanned most of the continent of Aeirglos. It had a level of technology that rivaled anything known today. With the collapse of the empire, the humanoid hordes soon overran the scattered human settlements.

Knowledge History: DC 20
The Empire had an infrastructure based almost entirely on a reliance of contained elementals (earth elementals for construction & mining, water elementals for sewage & irrigation, Fire elementals for heating, smelting, Air elementals for transport). Eventually this huge reliance collapsed seeing the destruction of the capital of Branshoon. Larger cities were able to hold of most of the hordes, and soon fell into city states. Somehow the collapse of Branshoon lead to the release of the elemental that the empire relied upon.

Knowledge History: DC 25
The ultimate cause of the Empire’s collapse is believed to be a huge magical rift that was caused by the Empirical leaders fell pacts with Asmodeus and dealings with Devils. Internal strife between factions of those treating with Devils and Followers of Zehir lead to magical onslaught within the Empirical hierarchy and resulted in a great rift forming over Branshoon. From the Rift swarmed not only forces of the elemental Chaos, but hordes of Devils.




City of Deestan

Streetwise

DC 15
This large coastal city was one of the last settled by the Karhielorhn Empire. It is the center of power for most of the settlements about a day to two days ride away. The city is the central ‘planed’ walled city of Deestan, and a few scattered outer communities around the city. The inner city while appearing to be more civilized can be a dangerous place to the unwary. Rumors abound of townsfolk going missing, and of the local temples powerless to help. Rumor also says that anything can be purchased within the walled city for the right price.

DC 20
The inner city or Old City as it is called is extremely dangerous after nightfall to those who run afoul of the city watch. Those who did not show the right respect of the nobles or the watch are arrested and never seen again. Many hushed tales tell of unspeakable horrors and experiments that happen in the darkened dungeons beneath Greenspire Castle.

Arcana
07-24-2008, 02:39 PM
I'm starting to think nobody likes me because my name says Administrator...Every time I post some of my (albeit sub-par in some cases) work, I only get comments or replies from CL's... :((

Redrobes
07-24-2008, 02:53 PM
Oh I think it looks really nice... well done Neon ! LOL

Arcana
07-24-2008, 02:56 PM
Oh I think it looks really nice... well done Neon ! LOL

Thats just cold whack

Bohunk
07-24-2008, 02:58 PM
I'm starting to think nobody likes me because my name says Administrator...Every time I post some of my (albeit sub-par in some cases) work, I only get comments or replies from CL's... :((

lol I too feel like that when you post something and nobody replies. You start to think that the map or your thread sucks! I guess its all just either luck or timing...

Bohunk
07-24-2008, 02:59 PM
Oh...the maps look good by the way! :)

Arcana
07-24-2008, 03:00 PM
I usually get replies...plenty...but they're all by the CLs

Thanks btw ;)

Redrobes
07-24-2008, 03:03 PM
I usually get replies...plenty...but they're all by the CLsYou could just promote everybody to CL - problem solved :D

Arcana
07-24-2008, 03:06 PM
Everyone moderates everyone...total anarchy...cats and dogs living together.

Ascension
07-24-2008, 06:07 PM
I think it's more of an intimidation factor, those of us that are new feel less inclined to share opinions with those who've been doing it far longer than we. Nobody likes the rookie coming in and telling the veterans how to do something or that something is crap (which it isn't btw, I esp like the first). When I see one of the colored names I immediately think, oh this guy knows what he's doing so I'll just keep quiet until it's done...then I'll sing glorious praises. And I know how ya feel, kinda, not many comments on my fjord so I'm thinking it either totally blows or totally blows minds...I always think the former but press on diligently anyway knowing I enjoyed the effort.

Anywho, my 2 cents :)

Arcana
07-24-2008, 10:11 PM
Thing is...I'm SOOO not an expert...quite the opposite...I consider myself quite the amateur...I created this site because I got tired of dealing with the CC2 list as a way to get my questions answered. I'm a better site admin than I am a mapper...When it comes to mapping...the only thing I am is the admin/owner of this site...I need just as much if not more help than you guys do with maps hehehe.

torstan
07-25-2008, 04:03 AM
2 hours? Good grief, they're amazing. if I could ever get that much mapping done in that time I'd go home happy.

I like the colour scheme of the maps - they are clear without being garish. I'd suggest a bit of smudge around the tops of the most northerly mountains - that's the only place where the sketchy line jars a little. Equally, a darker ink line around the tops to give them some crisp definition would also probably work.

I love the road in the town. That looks great.

Oh, and I am very flattered to have 'heavily influenced' anyone, let alone yourself :) That made my morning.

Steel General
07-25-2008, 08:56 AM
Well being relatively new to this whole thing, I must admit that when I would first see one of the CLs names on a submission it was a bit "intimidating" to offer critiques or criticisms. It's easy to say, "Hey that looks superdy-dooper", rather than "Well, I think it needs this here or this there". The first thing that ran thru my mind is, "This person's gonna think I'm a schmuck and have no clue what I'm talking about".

Now, having said that and having at least posted a few things, etc. none of the CLs (or anyone else for that matter) on these boards have ever to my knowledge reacted in any but the most positive manner.

OK, I'll get off the soapbox now.

jfrazierjr
07-25-2008, 09:34 AM
Now, having said that and having at least posted a few things, etc. none of the CLs (or anyone else for that matter) on these boards have ever to my knowledge reacted in any but the most positive manner.


Which is probably how they became CL's in the first place, by offering constructive criticisms and useful advice, as opposed to "hey, your dumb for doing it that way" type comments...:)

NeonKnight
07-25-2008, 09:50 AM
Which is probably how they became CL's in the first place, by offering constructive criticisms and useful advice, as opposed to "hey, your dumb for doing it that way" type comments...:)

Oh, we would never say DUmb. An Idiot or total baffoon maybe, but never dumb ;)

ravells
07-25-2008, 09:54 AM
I was an utter mapping noobie when I joined the Guild and think I'm now about average. I have been to other sites (e.g. Sci-Fi Meshes) where the admins are just mindblowingly good at making 3d models of spaceships and the intimidation thing definitely works there. But here I think that the best mappers are not actually the CLs at all (IMHO)

So I'm always very happy to receive C&Cs...lol I can't believe anyone can seriously feel intimidated by my stuff!

Patrakis
07-25-2008, 08:57 PM
I like the maps, but couldn't tell if they were hand drawn or CG. Will these be player handouts? (hence the hand drawn look?)

Pat

Midgardsormr
07-25-2008, 09:33 PM
The labels on the overland map are very strong compared to the sketchy lines of the map. They'd sit in better if maybe you reduced their opacity and adjusted the contrast of the map to bring the lines out more.

Arcana
07-25-2008, 10:18 PM
Its hand-drawn on the PC...so technicallly its CG, but its all drawn by hand (except the wall for Northwynd)

I see what you mean about the labels, they're a bit sharp indeed...I'll make some adjustments...thanks!

And yes...CLs are picked primarily on their posting prowess and social aptitude, their skill in mapping is a VERY minor decision.