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EmileEllDee
02-11-2014, 04:43 PM
Hello !

So I here present you my latest map, a depiction of a world for which I haven't yet decided the name.
I did it while following various tutorials and taking inspiration from many other fantasy map. I do not plan to illustrate the forest for now, but I may change my mind.
So as says the title, it is the map of the Ten Ilysan Possessions, a fallen Empire now ruled by chaos and petty kings. The 10 Possessions are in fact 10 different cities that were sworn to the capital of the Empire, now a ruin, Ilys.

I haven't yet decided the position of the various cities, thought. Anyway. As I said, it's still a WIP. Sorry if the texts are in french, it's my mother tongue. :P
So I welcome any feedback/critic, graphical or geological. :)

Have a nice day,
Emile

Jalyha
02-11-2014, 04:52 PM
I think it's beautiful :)

Trying to find something to critique, but I can't :)

EmileEllDee
02-11-2014, 05:07 PM
Aw, thanks ! :3
I realized how it is a honour, after reading your last blog entry. :P

Jalyha
02-11-2014, 05:39 PM
Lol, I'm ... just ... opinionated :P

Pixie
02-11-2014, 07:05 PM
Geography wise, I think there's a few things you need to set and let us know before we can comment constructively.

What is the scale of the map, is the sea D'Amariel the size of the Mediterranean or more along the lines of the Hudson Bay?

Where on the globe is this area located? And this implies a second question - what is/are the climates?

I think you grabbed a nice texture and the map seems a good start, but the rivers seem too many and too wide. And not only that, you have rivers starting in the middle of deserts. Plus, there seem to be a little too many islands and too randomly placed.
I'm normally very critical, so don't let this put you off in any way - you have a good starting point.

EmileEllDee
02-11-2014, 07:53 PM
Hello !
I now realize that the informations I gave were incomplete, and I apologize for that.

What is the scale of the map, is the sea D'Amariel the size of the Mediterranean or more along the lines of the Hudson Bay?
It was intended to be more in the lines of the Mediterranean, but it's pretty difficult to answer since these two are quite similar in size (well, if you look at it from a map). The Amariel sea is so bigger than the Mediterranean.


Where on the globe is this area located? And this implies a second question - what is/are the climates?
It is intended to be in a similar position than Europe. But the scale is more or less different, the Sea of Amariel being bigger than the Mediterranean.
I did a map for the biomes to help you understand better what I was thinking. Pale green being Mediterrean, middle-green humid continental, green subartic, green-blue (the light one at the top) -> toundra, grey -> semiarid, pale grey -> something between humid continental and semiarid, pale yellow -> between semiarid and arid, yellow -> arid, orange/yellow -> damn arid, light blue -> humid subtropical, middle-blue -> tropical wet & dry and finally blue -> tropical wet. (the Narros river becoming a delta while going into the sea)

The red line is the equator while the light-yellow ones are the tectonic.

Concerning the rivers, yeah, it is one of my weaknesses. I always tend to think that there is not enough rivers, and, meh, it gives that.
For the island, I have to give you a point on this. But it is a Fantasy Map and, by exemple, the island in the middle of the Amariel are suppose to be created by tectonic + magic&obscure thing. Anyway.

Hope I gave you all important informations,
Emile

Jalyha
02-11-2014, 07:58 PM
ummmm how did you decide on your biomes? :)

EmileEllDee
02-11-2014, 08:15 PM
Looking at a real map of the Earth and comparing with the distance from the equator, with a bit of fantasy for some part. :)
I know I should have probably done it with the winds and the rain, buuuut... >_>

Jalyha
02-11-2014, 08:47 PM
Ah... well... I only say because a few people (me included) are working on biome-type projects right now.

It's not just wind/rain and distance from the equator that affects it... it's also how big/where in the continents it is, and which coast if it's on a coast and a lot of things :?

I'm not sure if it looks kooky to me because I've been staring at my map for 100 hours, or if something's really off with them...

EmileEllDee
02-12-2014, 07:43 AM
Ok, so here are 2 news updates. I deleted some rivers as well as some island, and I added island to more appropriates places.
I think it is a little bit more logical concerning the biomes, also. (the yellow on the black-white image being the mountains)

Pixie
02-12-2014, 11:13 AM
First of all, my comment on the mediterraean/hudson bay sizes was quite wrong and you made me look for their areas. Thanks for that learning: mediterranean is way smaller in area than the hudson bay, not quite half the size but almost.

Now, on a different issue... EmileElDee, I don't know how much energy you want to devote to clime/biomes and the such, given you want to add magic to it all, but there's a critical inconsistency in your biomes that I'll try to explain. Of course, take in only as much as you like.

You said the map is about the size of europe, give or take, so I took the liberty of applying an outline of Europe..
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If this fits your overall scale then, your map stretches more or less between the equator and 30/35 degrees north. On Earth, that's the size of the Hadley Cell (http://www.windows2universe.org/vocals/images/HadleyCell_small.jpg)

Which means you get lots of rain around the area of the equator (the red line) and high pressure centers on the top of your mapped land.
I took 20 mins to make a preview of sea currents, dominant winds and possible biomes. It would be something like this:
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Green being rainy throughout the year, yellow dry and warm (very hot in the summer, particularly inland), and yelow being transition biomes (mainly savanah type). The colored arrows indicate probable currents and the outlined white arrows mean the dominant winds.

I think the main issue here is that you are placing the desert area in the equator, whereas it should be at the tropic (roughly 30 degrees north) - you fix this by moving the whole thing northward and that red line becomes the northern tropic. Either that or you are picturing a 60 wide continent which is something twice as big as europe, more along the size of Africa or Northern America.

Pixie
02-12-2014, 11:14 AM
Side note: don't take my criticism as harsh. I wouldn't have invested time if I didn't feel the map had potential ;).