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NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 02:06 AM
So, lets see who is really old school ;)

Who knows where the image from my new Avatar came from?

ravells
07-30-2008, 06:20 AM
It looks a bit like Don Quixote...but I'm sure that's VERY old school!

NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 06:34 AM
Nope. ;)

Try again.

NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 08:02 AM
It has to do with Mapping ;)

ravells
07-30-2008, 10:04 AM
Mr Mercator Himself?

NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 10:06 AM
Nope. Here is a close up of the Image.

Skycast
07-30-2008, 10:57 AM
Is that from Keep on the Borderlands?

RPMiller
07-30-2008, 11:48 AM
Shouldn't that have a blueish hue to it? ;)

Steel General
07-30-2008, 12:08 PM
I was thinking something from D&D myself - just not anything definitive

Sigurd
07-30-2008, 12:28 PM
Can't say I remember it as anything significant. It looks like an RPGA illustration or a particular 2 square inches from a particular D&D supplement.

If so, whats the chance 2 in 2000000 square inches of supplements :).

Sigurd

Ascension
07-30-2008, 05:48 PM
My DnD library is virtually non existent so I've never seen it, but I do dig the old school hex map.

torstan
07-30-2008, 05:59 PM
Well in an attempt to narrow it down, is it Greyhawk?

NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 06:29 PM
Nope, Not Keep on the Borderlands, but it is 1st edition D&D, Circa 1981.

And it's not a module ;)

Here is the FULL image

torstan
07-30-2008, 06:36 PM
Looks like the same artist as the one that did the Secret of the Slavers series, but I can't get any further than that.

NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 06:48 PM
I think you mean JEFF DEE, and it's not him ;)

TeeHee, this is fun.

I will post a definitive answer to this conundrum tonight (likely in a couple of hours)

RPMiller
07-30-2008, 06:52 PM
Is that from the Red Book? It looks like something I recall from a DM's section but 1981 was a long time ago. ;)

torstan
07-30-2008, 06:55 PM
Damn. Though in retrospect I was basing that guess on the flared trousers, but then this was '81. What was I thinking? Everyone wore flares :)

Is it TSR commissioned?

NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 07:26 PM
RPMiller, not from the DM's Guide. It is a seperate product, and here is another Hint. It was the only piece of artwork in it ;)

Torstan, Yes, it is TSR commisioned.

RPMiller
07-30-2008, 07:36 PM
Was it one of the Endless Quest books?

waldronate
07-30-2008, 07:40 PM
I've seen it and I have it in the archives but I'd have to go them to tell you which item it came from (one of these days I should post the a picture of the condition of the archives after I got married).

NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 07:44 PM
Was it one of the Endless Quest books?

Sorry, Nope.

RPMiller
07-30-2008, 07:47 PM
I bet it was an "official" mapping item like a battle mat or something. I know I've seen that before...

NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 08:09 PM
I bet it was an "official" mapping item like a battle mat or something. I know I've seen that before...

You're getting warmer ;)

RPMiller
07-30-2008, 08:15 PM
Were there dungeon tiles back then?

NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 08:29 PM
Were there dungeon tiles back then?

There were, and I had them, but this isn;t them:

NeonKnight
07-30-2008, 09:05 PM
Well, it seems nobody was Old School Enough :(

So, here is the old TSR mapping Product the image is taken from.

That's Right, the Booklet of HEX mapping paper.

http://www.pen-paper.net/rpgdb.php?op=showbook&bookid=5301

http://home.flash.net/~brenfrow/dd/dd-hex.htm

http://index.rpg.net/display-entry.phtml?editionid=11572

http://www.deigames.com/hex8007.html

Turgenev
07-30-2008, 11:39 PM
No fair, I've been away. I didn't get a crack at this. LOL! I wouldn't have got it anyways but I can say that the artist is Bill Willingham (who started with D&D and V&V art and then would do the Elementals comic and now, Fables).

RPMiller
07-31-2008, 12:06 AM
http://www.deigames.com/hex8007.html
That was it! I knew I had seen that before! Weren't the hex pages non-photo blue as well?

waldronate
07-31-2008, 12:15 AM
Guess I was wrong about which product it came from, then. I'm pretty sure that I've seen that artwork in another TSR product, though. Maybe it was just a Willingham piece of line art from one modules that was similar, though.

NeonKnight
07-31-2008, 12:15 AM
Nope, the hexes were black.

I loved that product. I initially forgot the artist was Willingham and thought it was Jeff Dee, which lead me to search, where I found the site Tome of Treasures (http://tomeoftreasures.com/index.html). There I was able to find a smaller image of the picture, and saw that is was Willingham I was thinking of.

To me, D&D is all about Willingham, Dee and Erol Otus (who still does D&D artwork for Dungeon Crawl Classics for Goodman Games http://www.goodman-games.com/index.html

Turgenev
07-31-2008, 02:46 AM
Speaking of Jeff Dee, I know of at least one site dedicated to his art. ;)
http://paratime.ca/v_and_v/art_jdee.html

RPMiller
07-31-2008, 12:00 PM
Nope, the hexes were black.

That's a surprise, but then again in 1981 most people didn't have easy access to copiers or scanners.

I checked my old gaming stuff last night and found the book of hex maps I had that had non-photo blue hexes and did not find the TSR mapping book which means that it must have belonged to my friend Brett who was the other DM in our group. Ah the memories...

Regarding that early art, it was certainly simpler and probably a lot faster to produce, and easier to color as well. ;)