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Schwarzkreuz
03-07-2014, 02:59 AM
Yes I know. Every year again, a new take on the Arden Map, but this time I feel motivated to finish it.

eViLe_eAgLe
03-07-2014, 03:37 AM
Don't worry, I'm sure most of us go back and re-create maps of the worlds we're fond of, myself included!

Schwarzkreuz
03-07-2014, 07:52 AM
To match my sketch better, I am drawing the entire coast by hand, nö strokelayer here.
Next is the Eastern continent of Etlessar and Icathan, which are depicted on the original Arden Map

Lingon
03-07-2014, 08:09 AM
A new SK map is always good news!

Phaneron
03-07-2014, 10:09 AM
Looks really cool, as far as I can tell. Going back and recreating a previously made map is always fun. I find myself adding things that I never would have thought of the first time around.

Schwarzkreuz
03-07-2014, 10:44 AM
Looks really cool, as far as I can tell. Going back and recreating a previously made map is always fun. I find myself adding things that I never would have thought of the first time around.

The Continent of Etlas was invented when I was around 6 years old, the greater Arden campaign envirement, was originally a postit strip with a River from north to south throught a dessertworld inspired by Mad Max Film branch and the Film Legend and Bladrunner, which I created for AD&D when I was around 8. It got expanded due my regular RPG gaming starting age 9. And well it grows till today. But you could clearly seen on the old map that it suffered the "Everything resembles Europe" Syndrome. So I am revising it with its own more unique shapes and structure.

Eilathen
03-07-2014, 10:47 AM
A new SK map is always good news!

This!

Looking forward to it. Can you mark the part that you showed us in your very first Arden map? Or do you redo that part as well?

Schwarzkreuz
03-07-2014, 09:23 PM
You can see the southern Domain here. Vantikras is relocated same with Salm. Its a bit different in structure and I will indicate the areas.

Schwarzkreuz
03-08-2014, 11:47 PM
Finished Outlines on 25% Resolution.

Clercon
03-09-2014, 04:21 AM
Looking good so far SK, I really like the layout of the continents.

Schwarzkreuz
04-15-2014, 05:30 PM
I am still thinking a lot about which style would work in this and still hasnt decided on.

Lingon
04-16-2014, 07:59 AM
If you want some input, maybe you could describe the options you're considering, or even make some small test pieces? That helps me often :)

Schwarzkreuz
04-16-2014, 06:05 PM
This Mapstyle is named "Ariadne" and is my most articulated "handdrawn" styled maps-elements-set with a solid white underlay for layered aplication of the mountains and other items in stacks. The forest is a smallerscaled and bleached out version of my regular solid green pineforests elements but due clientrequest bleached out a lot which fits surprisingly well and will be integrated into this style. It may slightly resembles Max`s minimal forestshadings but was created in a very different way by try&error. I think I should move away from a solid placement of masses of trees which worked well for Ramah on his maps but not realy on mine. So the directions I want to try more are individual sparse trees like on Blaeu Maps, and on the contrary some dense patternlike forests which goes in direction of the minimalistic shaded forests, which is a nice start here on this map.

The completely handdrawn coastoutlines in a 4px digital inkbrush with irregular ductus is kind of standartisized on all my works, which will be reduced in final use on 70-80% of its orriginal for Elements to intensify the look of the linework. Color-Burn layers and a slight tinting of the Mountains are placed carfully for an increase of contrasts without too much shading.

I will show samples of the other styles which are an option with similar detailed descriptions in the next weeks. Please feel free to add comments and critics on my work. I ahve been in a long paused due personal issues and hope to comeback once again.

Regards,
Josephe Vandel
Schwarzkreuz

- Max -
04-16-2014, 07:28 PM
Like I previously said to you, the ariadne mountains are great individually but the ranges aren't really convincting.

Lezales
04-16-2014, 10:55 PM
I think otherwise. Those mountains are absolutely astonishing. I'm in love.

- Max -
04-17-2014, 04:05 AM
What I meant is that the mountains are beautiful indeed. But it rather looks like a big block of mountains than a natural range.

Eilathen
04-17-2014, 07:36 AM
I agree with Max. The mountains are beautifully drawn, as usual, but the moutain-mass between Lothrill's Pass and the city of Paradus does not look like a real/natural mountain-range to my eyes.
The style in general looks great, though. Looking forward to the other styles you want to present to us.

Lingon
04-17-2014, 12:34 PM
Beautiful. I love those forests. The mountains are completely fantastic, but I agree with Max and Eilathen about their placement. The wave lines/coastal rings seem to digital compared to the rest, in my opinion, but maybe they are just placeholders?

Schwarzkreuz
04-18-2014, 06:07 PM
Ok I seem to be outvoted on this style. I can see the critic points for the ranges.
Here is another Forest in the same Set, but a Jungle.

Chashio
04-19-2014, 01:27 PM
When you say jungle I see what you're trying to do with it, but it doesn't quite read like jungle to me on its own, especially compared with your other forest style in this setting. Could be just me. What if you put some individual trees around the outer edges of the jungle, and/or draw some tree trunks and shadows along the near edges, with maybe the hint of an occasional trunk on top for really tall trees sticking above the canopy. Or use your other forest style but change the value (so instead of bleaching it cold, burn it darker) or wash it with a transparent red oxide instead of just your water shade? The volcano is cool. The red lava in the shadows is pretty awesome. Anyway, it's good to see you back at it. I like where you're going with this one.

Ilanthar
04-19-2014, 01:44 PM
Just a matter of personnal taste, but I think I prefer this forest to the previous one. Even if it's not screaming "jungle" indeed :).
And I agree with Clashio, this volcano is very cool!

Diamond
04-19-2014, 02:21 PM
I agree with both Chashio and Ilanthar - it doesn't really look like 'jungle' to me, but it does look awesome.

Schwarzkreuz
04-19-2014, 07:12 PM
Oh my. I realy need a complete overhouwl.

Chashio
04-19-2014, 10:30 PM
Oh my. I realy need a complete overhouwl.

Not necessarily. You've got a great paper background, color- and value scheme, interesting land forms with nicely drawn coastlines, your labels make awesome use of fonts, space, and an intriguing choice of names, your mountain style is fabulous (may need to adjust your size/placement in one area), and your forests look really cool (though, as stated, the two types are a little too different to work with each other in this set). Also in my opinion, the rivers look a bit too even and pixelated compared with the other line-work, though not terribly so. And you have good lava. One should never underestimate the power of an erupting volcano drawn on a map.

Schwarzkreuz
04-20-2014, 02:02 PM
I have to thank -Max- for my Font improvements as he hinted me on several important Labeling rules, especially on larger Labels whose spread over countires and landmarks. Well I am happy to see you back and welcome your sharp eyes on my work, Chashio!
These comments needs a bit to sink into my mind and I will show what will result from that.

Lezales
04-20-2014, 06:56 PM
By a complete overhaul do you mean you will NOT be using those beautiful mountains at all ?

Schwarzkreuz
04-21-2014, 09:18 AM
By a complete overhaul do you mean you will NOT be using those beautiful mountains at all ?

Yes, exactly that

Lingon
04-21-2014, 11:52 AM
Well, I think what you have is pretty brilliant, but I'm very excited to see what a total overhaul will bring as well!

Ilanthar
04-22-2014, 09:04 AM
Did you use the same mountains in the last map you posted? It looks very good in this last sample I think, with no problem of "mountains range" question.

Schwarzkreuz
04-24-2014, 01:06 PM
It was another set on the Skies of Fire Map.