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PUMPIKA
03-30-2014, 03:50 PM
I am writing a book which involves a large and complex world. I would like to make a map. These are my specifications:

-roughly 30 cities
-black and white
-tolkein-esque

Having looked at all the info on commissions, I notice none has anything about cost estimates. Given the above specs., could someone give me a rough price range? Then I'll consider whether it's worth it to commission one.

Thanks!
-Pumpika

feanaaro
03-30-2014, 04:09 PM
It is not entirely clear whether you want a world map or 30 city maps. If the former, then the number of cities is not exactly the most relevant metric to assess the complexity and scope of the project (I mean, on Tolkien's own map, cities are just dots and squares... you can make 30 or 300 of those, it's just the same amount of work, it's the rest of the map that counts).

PUMPIKA
03-30-2014, 04:23 PM
1 world map. Sorry for the confusion. To clarify, the drawing would be a about half, if not less, than the detail in this (Refer to image). There would be a lot less names. I already have every detail drawn out, just need someone to make it look good.
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Slylok
03-30-2014, 04:36 PM
It kind of depends on the cartographer you choose. Some can perform faster than others and have different skill levels and skill sets. If you look around the forums or browse the galleries for a mapper that has done something in the style you like then your best bet may be to contact them directly with your guidelines. They can then in turn give you their estimate.

Some helpful information to include is how big the final product should be, Whether its for print or not, Time frame if any, stuff like that.

I usually base my price on how many hours i think it would take me to finish the original request with the information given then add a few more hours for corrections and adjustments. That's just me. Others may have another method.

Hope this helps you out in some way. Good luck :)

PUMPIKA
03-30-2014, 04:55 PM
Time limit: None. You can take weeks.
Print: Sort of. Not for sale, if that's what you mean.
Size: Big enough so that you can fit everything in. Probably one sheet of printer paper.

PUMPIKA
03-30-2014, 04:57 PM
Also, I am not looking for a good estimate. I'd just like to know if these things typically go for: 0-20, 20-100, 100-200, 200 plus.

PUMPIKA
03-30-2014, 05:44 PM
Okay, guys. I just saw on one of your other sub-forums a sticky about commissions. Very informative, they should post it here! Anyways I saw that many of you charge about 50 bucks, so thanks for the help.

- Max -
03-30-2014, 06:16 PM
I saw that many of you charge about 50 bucks, so thanks for the help.

Oh really? :D

Midgardsormr
03-30-2014, 06:21 PM
Personally, I wouldn't start up my computer for less than $300.

Schwarzkreuz
03-31-2014, 05:22 AM
Personally, I wouldn't start up my computer for less than $300.


Similar here.

For a map to look well, it shouldnt be a rushjob

Jacktannery
03-31-2014, 03:21 PM
I don't think people should assume that $50.00 is a realistic price for a good map made from scratch. But I do think it is great OP that you found a cartographer who was happy to provide his or her time for you at such a generous rate.

jcoberly
03-31-2014, 03:50 PM
I'm new to this, but I can tell you for the map I'm looking for, I've had offers of $50, $100, $300, and "pay what you think it's worth".
All the portfolios are of similar quality, with the less expensive ones actually looking slightly better IMO.

Schwarzkreuz
04-01-2014, 07:13 AM
The Guild had never been a entity who tells its members what to charge (in contrast to historical Guilds ;) ) I guess one of the reasons for the large difference in prices are on the one hand if the mapper does this as a professional Designer or a hobbiest, or on the otherhand depending on the own skill level and worthing of the own work.

As for me 10h are a rought estimation on a A4 size Map. At least in Germany the hour rates of a designer/Illustrator is between 40-100$ per hour (avarages)
Other people map for the joy of mapping and dont care about 3$/h which is not realistic for people making a living from Art.

Oh and no offence to your request or posts. Its just that stabdard rates are kind of a hot topic here.

Salama
04-01-2014, 07:28 AM
I too find these threads very useful. I'm a professional graphic designer, but make maps as a hobby. Therefore I have no need to ask the >$60 / h I do in my day job, but on the other hand I do not want to ask too little and thus lower the price on other people's work, especially those who have to make their living with it. I often ask very little for my maps, but only when I have some other use for the map - if I need it for my portfolio or if the copyright stays with me and I can sell it to publishers for example.

AuthorParmain
04-14-2014, 04:23 PM
Personally, I wouldn't start up my computer for less than $300.

Ouch. If only there were some sort of a...mapmaking sweatshop where cheap "creative" types could purchase poorly crafted, tear-soaked maps from enslaved cartographers for our equally poorly written epic fantasy novels. When will Drake Dragonblade finally be able to wander the misty vales of the Firedeep forest, or run along the coast of the Pyrian Fire Sea! Curse you professional artists demanding a professional wage!...curse you. :,(

Edit: I should mention that if you don't mind a drop in quality that you can usually find cheaper mapmakers at deviantART, BUT from what I've seen, the fine cartographers here are significantly more skilled. In my opinion, they're usually worth it. But if you don't need that level of polish then a DA artist might be a better fit and who knows, they may even throw in a free erotic sketch of your map. ;) Imagine the generous mountain ranges!

Schwarzkreuz
04-15-2014, 02:19 PM
Well a lot of Guildmembers are also on DA. I guess if people are looking for cheap Art or even free Stuff, there are always people doing slavework. But pay cheap & get cheap wont do any novel any good at all. I mean also for covers, who buys stuff thats already looking extremely cheap?

Midgardsormr
04-17-2014, 03:07 PM
Ouch. If only there were some sort of a...mapmaking sweatshop where cheap "creative" types could purchase poorly crafted, tear-soaked maps from enslaved cartographers for our equally poorly written epic fantasy novels. When will Drake Dragonblade finally be able to wander the misty vales of the Firedeep forest, or run along the coast of the Pyrian Fire Sea! Curse you professional artists demanding a professional wage!...curse you. :,(

Heh, well, there are more ways to pay than money, remember. I've only taken two commissions here. One was for a very simple floorplan that I was planning to make for myself, anyway, so I just charged an hourly rate for the small chunk of time it took me. I think it came out to about $45. The other I did for barter: I got a cut of royalty-free music from a composer in exchange for a map of his continent. I might even be persuaded (very rarely) to reduce my rate in exchange for royalties if I truly believe that the map will see print and a significant circulation. Usually that means that the content creator in question already has a track record of successfully monetizing their work.

Also, I'm usually willing to license existing work for far less than I'd get for a commission. The work is already done, so it's not competing with higher-paying projects I could be working on. I am, though, a professional digital artist and living in Los Angeles with it's astronomical cost of living. If I'm going to be making art for someone else's benefit, then I have to charge a rate that will pay my rent and put mac 'n' cheese on my table. And it's always nice if there's enough left over to pay down my student loans.