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Redrobes
09-11-2008, 07:11 AM
Recently I seem to find this site very slow and most sites seem to be normal speed except maybe EnWorld and a few selected others. Can I ask everyone to rate how fast they get page updates from a click on a new thread or post.

Sirith
09-11-2008, 07:33 AM
I just clicked on three threads to open in new tabs, and they took about 10 seconds to load each. It's definitely slower than it was before.

Steel General
09-11-2008, 07:44 AM
It's definitely slowed down recently. Map thumbnails used to load pretty quickly, now most of the time I'm forced to click so that they go to a new tab, then I go back to the original tab and move on to another post or wait for the thumbnail to load before replying.

I've noticed this both at work and at home, where I have a fiber connection.

Patrakis
09-11-2008, 08:19 AM
Very slow for the last week or so.

Redrobes
09-11-2008, 08:34 AM
Ok, so its not just me then. I dont know what could be doing it or what Arcanas set up is. I dont know whether this site is hosted on a local machine or an ISP server.

From a quick search there does appear to be viruses that take all clicks and forward them to an ever growing list of relay sites just in case you log in and send your password through so my advice for the immediate future is not to log in if you get signed out or else you will possibly lose your user entry in the site and have it used to forward email spam. I dont know if this is the case in this instance tho.

Hopefully Arcana will be able to get a handle on why its taking a while and whether all the net traffic is being diverted.

delgondahntelius
09-11-2008, 08:53 AM
yep slow for me as well... in fact... i've gotten quite a few double post notices... and, i've double posted a couple of those times...

dorpond
09-11-2008, 10:51 AM
Painful to visit, slow..

RPMiller
09-11-2008, 11:33 AM
I suspect that it is do to our growing membership. Arcana may have to increase his available bandwidth.

Torq
09-11-2008, 11:40 AM
I've also found the site much slower. I clicked "unusably long time" because new threads are taking me 25-30 seconds and you didn't provide an answer in those terms. An "unusably long time" is a very relative concept particularly for those of us who live in the third world and have only recently migrated from dial-up.

Torq

Redrobes
09-11-2008, 11:47 AM
I would expect that the extra members would slow it slightly but for me this has happened in the last few days. A decent PC should handle 30 off users requests and 10 or so members images and attachments.

I used to have to put a wait statement in my thumbnail grabber so as not to fetch the pages too quickly. Now the script can take up to 10 mins to run. It hasn't progressively slowed down. Its fallen off a cliff. Something has happened.

I sent a PM to Arcana yesterday but he must be away for a short break. If there is anything I could help with then id do it. Can't have my favorite web site down... But it seems as tho its definitely a server side issue. I would try getting wire shark out on it and see where all the bandwidth is going. My hunch is a zillion emails per day flogging viagra....

NeonKnight
09-11-2008, 12:30 PM
I put Unusably as well. I have a around a 5Meg DSL connection, and it is really slow. So slow I am not even reading most threads. If I fall a day behind I look for titles I recognize and New Member Posts, other than that I click 'Mark all Threads' and move on :(

Its just too slow otherwise.

NeonKnight
09-11-2008, 12:34 PM
Ooooooh, Also, I normally work graveyards so am Accessing at a time when the majority of users are asleep (Read North America), and a few other Notables are normally Working (Torq, Ravs and Others in the GMT time zone range), and it is painfully slow at that time as well.

jfrazierjr
09-11-2008, 01:13 PM
Hmm I thought it was me. I reconfigured my router and Voice box a few weeks ago and got two new computers added onto the network about the same time. Also, the other site I frequent has been slow at the best of times (RPTools forum) and is known to have host and software issues, so I just figured it was something on my network and had not gotten around to looking at it.

Now that I think about it and go to a few non forum sites, they are overall quite snappy compaired to TCG.

RobA
09-11-2008, 04:17 PM
The sit is also getting big and the spiders are hitting quite hard. I have occasionally seen 20+ spiders crawling the site on top of actual users, and they tend to be quite agressive.

Rob A>

delgondahntelius
09-11-2008, 04:55 PM
i watch the online list quite a bit... there are always 20+ search bots and spiders on here...

It may just be a bandwidth issue... but it is definitely server side...

Redrobes
09-11-2008, 05:05 PM
I could believe that spiders would take it down especially if ripping up all the images and attachments. At least that would be something which is very easy to fix if the site is running on Apache.

loydb
09-11-2008, 06:51 PM
I'm betting it's a database issue of some kind. Is there some middleware serving up db requests?

Turgenev
09-11-2008, 08:04 PM
The sit is also getting big and the spiders are hitting quite hard. I have occasionally seen 20+ spiders crawling the site on top of actual users, and they tend to be quite agressive.

Does the site have a Robots text file (http://www.outfront.net/tutorials_02/adv_tech/robots.htm)? It would help deal with the spider issue. It would take some of the stress off the servers.

jfrazierjr
09-11-2008, 09:51 PM
I could believe that spiders would take it down especially if ripping up all the images and attachments. At least that would be something which is very easy to fix if the site is running on Apache.


Yea, I noticed the spiders about 3 weeks ago or so and asked Arcana about it over IM. He said he had just made a few changes to the sites configuration and said he might be doing some further tweaks. We did not get into detail though. It could be he did some other tweaks that might have made things worse, but who knows. Until he pops back online, we really won't know.

arakish
09-12-2008, 01:45 AM
I have high-speed cable (Comcast with PowerBoost) and it seems slow to me. Then again, it all depends on network traffic. A good analogy is like this question: "Why do they call the slowest driving time rush hour?" As with a glut of cars on the roads will slow you down in traffic, network traffic will the do the same. It all depends on bandwidth.

If you have eight lanes and all of them are going the same direction, the faster traffic flows. If you split those eight lanes into four going either direction, traffic flows slower in both directions.

What is the bandwidth for the server? Perhaps need to upgrade the bandwidth?

Just some ideas.

rmfr

Redrobes
09-12-2008, 05:27 AM
s'funny, its really fast this morning... better run my script right now !

dorpond
09-12-2008, 06:18 AM
Yeah, it is a joy to browse now - super fast! ~2 seconds per load.

RobA
09-12-2008, 08:00 AM
Noticed that too. Back to the old speed now...

-Rob A>

Steel General
09-12-2008, 08:15 AM
Yuppers! Much better today.

NeonKnight
09-12-2008, 09:56 AM
Yep, faster!

waldronate
09-12-2008, 10:22 AM
Well, darn. I don't like my candidate (10 sec) anymore because he no longer represents the demonstrated values of the party (< 2 sec). Can I change my vote?

Redrobes
09-12-2008, 07:28 PM
Well I sure as heck don't know what went on there for a few days but all today its been zippy as normal. At least this thread should provide Arcana with a log of dates vs speeds of access and hope that there's some site log of the user accesses & general hit count that maybe match up and we can put 2 & 2 together to see who or what was the matter. I reckon it might be a good idea to limit these spiders a bit in any case but if it ain't making the difference then I guess it don't matter. Well lets hope it stays this way and its back to business as usual.

Robbie
09-13-2008, 11:15 AM
Just got off the phone with Godaddy...and the problem has supposedly been resolved. Basically, I'm on shared hosting...and with shared hosting you have multiple sites on one server.

The way they handle that is they have a system apparently that juggles sites around to balance the load. Well the server I was on got a little unbalanced, and some adjustments had to be made. I'm watching it just to make sure...they didn't specify whether or not it was me causing the off-balance.

The thing is...we're REALLY not killing the bandwidth...we're at 4655.00 MB of 150000.00 available bandwidth for this month alone. The slowdown was definitely server side.

I apologize for the dissapearing act. I've been on the road for work this past week, and it got a little hectic to the point of unavailability the latter half of the week...but I'm home now and getting ready to do a site patch later today so watch for some brief downtime (30-45 mins).

Steel General
09-13-2008, 11:49 AM
No need to apologize, I think we all realize that life gets in the way sometimes.

Redrobes
09-13-2008, 03:45 PM
Glad its all sorted and that its not a site hack. Appreciate all the work you put in to this site too Arcana.

Robbie
09-13-2008, 03:57 PM
Thanks!

In the past, running websites has always been a thankless job...but this site has been the most rewarding personally of all my past web endeavours. Now if only I could achieve internet fame.

JoeyD473
09-14-2008, 11:25 PM
I find the site a bit slow. O have for quite a while, but I thought it was jsut me