View Full Version : Iron Mapper Challenge

10-16-2008, 06:01 AM
I am sure many of you are familiar with the iron chef format (plus maybe the spoof of it done in Order of the Stick), if not essentially you have a number of ingredients and the participants have to make whatever dishes they can from those components.

I suggest something similar for an encounter map, choose say half a dozen items that the map MUST include (either just name them or also provide clip art that may be used should the entrant wish) then all other parts of the map can be chosen as they wish.

Bonus points for some sort of background story linking all these elements into a setting for the encounter.

Suggested list would be something like:
An Altar
A barrel
A Goblin
A trap
A bridge

10-16-2008, 06:07 AM
Teach me to try to 'americanise' the question, seems Iron chef is not quite the show I thought it was upon further research, the challenge is more like "Ready Steady Cook" from the UK, but ignoring what is now a poor intro to the suggestion, the idea still stands

10-16-2008, 06:54 AM
You sir, are correct (i recently moved to the uk, and have seen both (while for ironchef, theres no comparison to the japo verison)

for those of you who havent seen ready steady cook. its almost exactly what your talking bout, they have celebs come on are bring ingredients to make a meal (they can spend as much as 7.50 to buy the ingredients, but usually have 4-5 things to make... much more then ironchefs one...)

anyways, i to think thats an amazing idea.

10-16-2008, 09:37 AM
I remember seeing the intro for "Battle Milk" and was like What the heck? How can those crazy chefs use milk in 5 dishes AND make it so the judges can taste the flavor of the milk in the dish. Anyway, somehow, the chefs seemed to do ok with it, at least according to the judges. I also liked "Battle octopus" and seeing them trying to deal with those huge tentacles. Was neat to see a 2 and a half foot wok being used... looked more like a makeshift shield that a wok to me!

Anywhoooo... not a bad idea at all....as for the ingredient list... I would add.....a Herring! oh... and .... a Shrubbery... one that's not to tall, and looks nice.

10-16-2008, 09:50 AM
I had assumed the actual list would be dreamt up by the community leaders, but it seems an easy way to continue the 'in your own style' challenges that are proving so popular, but giving it that little twist.

10-16-2008, 09:58 AM
I had assumed the actual list would be dreamt up by the community leaders, but it seems an easy way to continue the 'in your own style' challenges that are proving so popular, but giving it that little twist.

To a large degree, the July Challenge (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=2415) was pretty much this format.

hmm ... perhaps we professions for building types that must include interiors.... the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker... I can see it now... the blood and guts, the sacks of flour and an oven, and ummm candle making stuff????

10-16-2008, 10:05 AM
To an extent, I was hoping this approach would leave things more open to interesting interpretations, to be honest I pondered long and hard about adding goblin to the list as it almost rules out a futuristic take on the challenge.

From the list I suggested you could have a range from woodlands through to 100% urban all sharing the same items.

10-16-2008, 10:40 AM
One of the things I really like about this idea is the "title" of it.

We're working on the Lite Mapping Challenge concept, and I think it will please you all...the Iron Mapping Challenge would be another neat addition...but I dunno...will require some thought ;)

10-16-2008, 11:10 AM
I like the name but how will the eventual challenge be different from what we have now?

Smart names are a great thing but so is keeping a good tradition alive - no matter the name.

If you want to tip you hat to the name have a few monthly challenges in this idiom.

If you want to do a 'light' challenge how about we come up with some community map elements. Compass roses, trees, etc... make them a week per element and all the results some sort of progressive license (CC, Gnu etc...).


10-16-2008, 11:56 AM
One of the things I really like about this idea is the "title" of it.

Not that I am saying the format has to match the show, but for those who have no idea what Iron Chef is, here is a short explanation.

A challenger chef is selected by the producers to "compete". He is brought into the arena and either he(US version) or the host(Japan version) chooses his opponent from a pool(2-5) of "Iron Chefs" who are "masters of their art" The host then reveals the weeks secret ingredient, of which each of 5 meals must consist of said ingredient. As soon as the secret ingredient is revealed, the contestant and his Iron Chef opponent (and their 2 junior chefs each) are allowed exactly 60 minutes to prepare their 5 meals. After time is called, each chef address the judges to explain each of his 5 dishes. Then, the judges rate the entire meal based on use of the secret ingredient, originality and presentation by giving up to 20 points per chef (10, 5 , and 5 IIRC) for a max of 60 points (20 times 3 judges). Winner has the most point total.

EDIT: Allez Cuisine!

Steel General
10-16-2008, 12:36 PM
What I think is funny is that the host of the US version (Mark Dacascos), is supposed to be the nephew of the host of the Japanese version.

That being said, I think this could be a fun change to the current challenge format, as long as its not overdone.

10-16-2008, 01:49 PM
to me i think it would be a good weekly or even daily challenge... it'd be fun to amp up the time, and make it kind of automated, have a list of items, and pick random ones every day... just a thought, reminds me of a weekly photo scavenger hunt i'm doing at the moment

10-16-2008, 02:13 PM
Erm not up to daily map making!

I was expecting it to be a full standard map just like the normal monthly challenges

10-17-2008, 07:31 AM
thats fine, i just think its a great idea, and could be done very often helping people brainstorm and such

10-17-2008, 02:02 PM
One of the challenges a few months back was a 4 hour challenge. One could make it a similar 4, 8, 12, 24 hour challenge with the Iron Chef-esque challenge a la carte items tacked on?

10-17-2008, 06:24 PM
The November 07 Challenge kind of worked that way. Yes, it was a "Create an Old West" map, but required a specific list of objects to be included on the map - mountains, hills, butte, cactus, railroad tracks, etc.

So, in a way, we've done a challenge that had this type of setup involved.


10-18-2008, 03:28 AM
Cool, way before my time obviously. The question I guess is: was it succesful?

10-18-2008, 01:25 PM
Only three entries...

-Rob A>

10-18-2008, 03:23 PM
Only three entries...

-Rob A>

Yeah, that's true, but then it was an "Old West" map challenge, which may have fewer cartographers interested in that theme. Had the challenge been a list of required objects that must be posted, vs having any specific theme - it might have had more entries.

Allowing the participant to choose his or her own theme, may have had more interest.

We had to create the map objects ourselves in that entry. Perhaps for a Lite Challenge, perhaps all the required objects should be pre-created by someone here or from Dundjinni Forums and provided ahead of time. This way the participants must map the surroundings where these items are placed and that makes the creative portion of this challenge.



10-21-2008, 04:00 AM
I would have objects they CAN use, that way you give people more freedom should they want to do a theme out of the ordinary (ie futuristic) or use a non standard mapping method (ie aurora engine or playdoh)