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Patrakis
06-12-2006, 10:29 PM
I thought to give you a glimpse of what CC3 is capable of and at the same time ask for comments on the map style i'm trying to build for my new maps. Any comments will be appreciated.

http://patoumonde.com/Images/Maps/1800x2400/Valedale3a_1200x1487.JPG

Thanks

Pat

deanatglobe
06-13-2006, 12:07 PM
Are the colors contour based or are they indicative of different terrain, ie forest, mountain? Using the CC3 layer effects to get the gradient effects in the brown and green areas is nice. The color of the rivers does not quite match the rest of the pallete.

Is that the glow effect on your text? On the map I am working on I seem to be getting a 1 pixel outline of the text in the color of the background and then the glow. It ends up looking a little strange when zoomed out, especially if the background color does not match well with the text color.

I really like how clean the map looks, good work.

Dean

Patrakis
06-13-2006, 05:59 PM
Hi Dean,

The color indicates the type of vegetation on the terrain. GReen for normal forest, brown for alpine vegetation. I still working on the colors. The different tones of color indicate elevation. Which will become clearer when i had some kind of legend.
Your comment on the water color is noted.

The effect on the text is effectivelly the glow effect. You can adjust these parameters. I thinkered a lot to get what i wanted exactly.

This map is not yet finished though. I got some very good new ideas after looking a a tool for ARCGIS call spatial analyst. I got to find a way to implement that in my map.

PAt

deanatglobe
06-14-2006, 01:14 PM
I figured out my problem with the Glow Effect is the anti-aliasing that is being done on screen. When I print the image the one pixel border goes away.

Dean

Lorne
06-14-2006, 01:24 PM
Nice work. It looks like I'll need to pick up a copy of CC3.

Patrakis
06-14-2006, 07:36 PM
Thanks Lorne,

If you liked CC2 and you were proficient with it, you are gonna love CC3. It's the best of both worlds in combining vector drawing with raster effect.

I love it.

Glad you found the source of your problem dean. I might have time to work on the map tonight :)

Pat

Lorne
06-16-2006, 03:42 PM
If you liked CC2 and you were proficient with it, you are gonna love CC3. It's the best of both worlds in combining vector drawing with raster effect.

I'll take your advice. My wife was just asking me what I'd like as a Father's Day gift . . .

Patrakis
06-16-2006, 07:25 PM
Had i been (grammar?) a patient man, That is exactly what i would have wished for :)

PAt

Patrakis
06-18-2006, 10:36 PM
Well,

I think i am pretty close to where i wanted to go with this map. Here is the final results.:

Valedale: http://patoumonde.com/Images/Maps/1800x2400/Valedale3a_1200x1487.JPG

Pat

Uthoroc
06-23-2006, 11:04 AM
It's amazing work, Pat. Really great use of the new cc3 features. I like it a lot! :)

RPMiller
06-23-2006, 12:08 PM
I like it!! I love how you have combined both elevation and terrain type in to one fluid map. The drop shadow is an interesting effect, and really points out the difference in elevation and vegetation at the same time.

Patrakis
06-23-2006, 08:03 PM
Thank you both. I am in the process of writing a tutorial, or more a walk through of the way i drew this map. I think i'll finish it over the week end. If it is of any interest to you guys, i'll post here when it's ready.

THanks again

Pat

Hoseman
06-23-2006, 10:55 PM
Great map...its got a very cool style. I see it working extremely well for a modern game. I am looking forward to the tutorial.

papermonk
06-24-2006, 03:12 AM
One of the nicer looking CC maps I've ever seen, certainly!!

I look forward to your tutorial!

Patrakis
06-24-2006, 11:24 AM
Thanks again for the nice comments guys.

And as i promised, here is the link to the tutorial i made of the Valedale map.

http://patoumonde.com/French/Articles/Valedalewalkthrough.pdf

I hope you like it.

Pat

papermonk
06-24-2006, 06:51 PM
Great tutorial, do you mind if I post it over on my site ( http://portal.nwcitadel.com/ )?

Patrakis
06-24-2006, 07:33 PM
I don't mind at alll. If it can help some people, i'll be happy.

Thanks

Pat

RPMiller
06-24-2006, 10:39 PM
Thank you very much for the tutorial!! :!:

ravells
06-26-2006, 12:34 PM
Lovely Map, Pat.

Quick question. Does CC3 support anti-aliasing? The lack of anti-aliasing is (for me) one the biggest letdowns of CC2.

Ravs

RPMiller
06-26-2006, 01:21 PM
I'm assuming you mean anti-aliasing of the picture export since CC2 is vector based there isn't a need for anti-aliasing within the program unless I'm missing something...

Patrakis
06-26-2006, 07:36 PM
Hello Ravells,

Their is no mention of applying any kind of anti-aliasing when exporting to raster format. I haven't seen any at least.

Sorry if that is a must for you though and i appreciate you and everyone else who did, for taking the time to comment on the map.

Sincerely

Pat

Patrakis
01-08-2008, 10:40 AM
It's been a while since i came over the forums here since i've been away from my favorite passtime for some time.

I've corrected a couple of links i had in this thread that weren't working because i made some changes to my site. The map and tutorial are working again now.

Thanks

Pat

The Cartographist
01-10-2008, 01:31 AM
Pat - Nice looking maps. And welcome back. I think that we all understand how life can get in the way...

Patrakis
02-01-2008, 07:37 PM
Thanks,

And i'm not out of the woods yet. I still have a hard time finding myself able to map a again.

Just for curiosity, has anyone found the tutorial useful in any way? Since it was done about 2 weeks after the release of CC3, newcomers might have found it useful but now, 2 years after...is it still current enough?

Anyway, keep up the good work. This site is important.

Pat

jaerdaph
02-02-2008, 04:34 PM
Good to see you, Pat! I remember when you originally shared this map and your tutorial on the CC users mailing list and how impressed I was. I really got a lot out of that tutorial with regards to sheet effects in CC3 back then when you did it, so many thanks again! :)

I think the tutorial stands the test of time. I know it helped me get over my apprehension over using the new sheet effects when CC3 first came out and there wasn't really any significant official documentation.

Patrakis
02-07-2008, 12:26 PM
That's great,

I'm itching to make other documents of this type for DD3 and the upcoming CD3 when it comes out.

Now if i can only find some time for hobbies again :)

Pat