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Wag
01-16-2009, 11:52 AM
Howdy Folks!

So after posting my last work in progress when it was very near completion, I realized that the comments and criticisms would have been invaluable earlier in the construction of the map. Ergo, with my regional maps started, I am posting the works far earlier to get more feedback and hopefully an even better end result.

So, the first regional map of Avani is its Western Lands. Currently I have roughed in my mountains, rivers, and forests and with more space to add further details plan on adding any swamps and marshes. I'll also be adding more cities of various sizes and roads if I can swing it. I am considering adding borders between kingdoms, but have no decided for certain.

Stylistically, I'm hoping to lean toward a more aged parchment paper look. I am going to experiment with a larger, yet still subtle, color palette. I have incorporated the Woodcut look around my land's borders this round after struggling with it on the overworld Avani map.

Text and map legend is in very early stages (meaning almost nonexistent at this point) and will be expanded on once most of the mountains and colors are complete. Also locations and roads will be added at that point as well. The major rivers will be somewhat revised and minor rivers will be added as well.

All these things being said the two maps I have included to start are some of the earliest versions. The first is very roughed in, while the second is beginning to provide more detail and some slight color.

If anyone has any suggestions or criticisms I would love to hear them. Keep in mind that the text, rivers, and other landmarks will be put thru a "displacement" filter to give them more depth and attempt soften them at the same times.

Otherwise, I'll just keep plugging away at it and post updates when I can.

Thanks folks!

Wag

Steel General
01-16-2009, 01:41 PM
Coming along nicely. I like both versions, though my preference is slightly skewed toward the color one. :)

Torq
01-16-2009, 04:16 PM
I like them both but the colour one really does it for me. One thing that struck me as a little incongruos was the grid. Its line are perfectly straight even though the texture on the map paper makes it look crumpled. I like the crumpled look and the grid individually but I'm not sure they are working together perfectly.

Torq

The-Somberlain
01-16-2009, 04:53 PM
The colored map is just...beautiful!!! Excellent map with a great style!

Ascension
01-16-2009, 04:54 PM
I'll add another vote for the second one, though I think you might be able to discard the texture of crumpled paper or lower the opacity of it way down to be more of a subtle hint. Why I like the color is that it really makes the map "go" for me and is why I think others like it too...color just makes it more interesting to look at as a whole. And your treatment of the style still retains it's authentic look of aged parchment...I'd like to see more like this. Good job.

Rahva
01-17-2009, 06:35 AM
Aye, I like the color one too. If it were to go into print (like in the front of a fantasy book where maps usually end up) the black and white one would look perfect though.
I'm not too sure about the grid. If you're going for semi-authentic navigational map I imagine the grid would be bigger. If it's were a campaign map I don't know if there should be a grid on it to begin with.

I absolutely love your mountains and your trees. Of the fonts you used I think the fancy curly one fits the style the best. Oh, and I also love the coastlines!

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out!

Wag
01-20-2009, 01:23 AM
Thanks to all for your interest and comments. I wish i had a bigger update but I don't. I did make some of the changes suggested tho starting with the relief of the canvas. It is now much more subtle. The gridlines are also more subtle as well. They may or may not go away completely as time goes on.

The cities are now smaller which looks better to me. Also, there are more age marks on the canvas which lends to a little more depth. It may be a tad overdone. I'll give it some more time to see how it sinks in.

Still to add is lots. Names, labels, minor rivers, minor cities, villages, more color variations, hills, possibly landmarks, possibly castles, map key, roads, swamp, new (and colored!) compass, and much much more.

Keep in mind this new version is only slightly different.

Thanks again for your interest!

Hoel
01-20-2009, 07:13 AM
I like it. It's has a nice hand drawn style and i like the grunge/aging.

Ascension
01-20-2009, 08:37 AM
That looks great and it looks very different from other maps....a real winner and style-definer.

Wag
01-26-2009, 12:13 AM
Thank again for the comments folks.

I've made some minor updates to a new version including some roads, more cities and towns, some relabeling, the remaining mountains along the maps border, a tad more color, a trial compass (very similar to my previous map) and a few other very minor details.

I've got a lot more landmarks and regions to label and color, more details to add into those regions, plenty of labeling, still needs a key, and generally lots to do still.

Let me know what you think of the roads. I'm personally not thrilled about them yet. Like anything I have to let them grow on me a little first.

Thanks again for your interest!

Wag

landorl
01-27-2009, 10:50 AM
I love the style of these maps. They are just very nice to look at. The only thing that I can see that might be improvable is the rivers. There are a lot of sharp angles and straight lines when you look at them closely. However, if you zoom out a bit, it is not noticeable.

Wag
01-29-2009, 11:35 AM
I had been noticing the rivers more and more. I’ve already redone the main rivers to be less jagged. I'll also be adding minor rivers as well. There won't be to many additions, but certainly something. Sadly I have had precious little time to work on it. Perhaps this weekend I'll have some time to invest.

I've also added more roads, towns, and cities to make the world feel less sparse. I plan on adding a couple smaller lakes in addition to the minor rivers.

Thanks again for the comments!

Wag

Wag
02-10-2009, 01:03 AM
I know its not much different, but here is the latest incarnation of the map. Some minor changes only. Rivers have been redone and the dead forests and marshes have been clearly defined. Some labeling has been started. A key has been started as well.

All relatively minor changes. So much left to do. *sigh*

Anyway, feedback would be great. Thanks

Wag

Karro
02-10-2009, 11:20 AM
It looks beautiful.

I might suggest toning down the colors in the compass, only just a tad, so that it doesn't stand out to starkly against the very subtle colors of the rest of the map. I was also thinking that, given the style of the map, those same colors might look even more awesome if they were unevenly worn and faded. That might be a bit more difficult to do, but it's a minor suggestion. Other than that, it's fairly-well stunnng.

Hoel
02-10-2009, 01:07 PM
Like it!
Love the coastline, that's a really nice effect!

landorl
02-10-2009, 01:56 PM
The rivers look much better now. This is a great map, and a good mapping style!

ravells
02-15-2009, 01:56 PM
Great Map Wag! Repped.

woekan
02-16-2009, 11:18 AM
I like this style! repped

Wag
03-01-2009, 01:25 AM
Thanks for all the kind words everyone!

Just a quick note, I haven't had a chance to work on the map, but I did finally get a chance to sit down and put together a pack of the brushes and textures that I used in this map as well as my Comprehensive map of Avani (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=3972). I posted the brushes in the Mapping Elements forum.

Here is a link to the post:

http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?p=52078#post52078