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industrygothica
03-05-2009, 01:42 AM
Yes, I'm most certain that the River Police will have a collective litter of kittens with this one. :P Nonetheless...

I'm not terribly sure where this is going. I just woke up one morning and started drawing, and this is where I ended up. I don't think it's horrible, but it most certainly needs more. Trouble is, I'm not sure what.

Any ideas?


-IG

NeonKnight
03-05-2009, 01:47 AM
I'm sorry, without knowing a Scale or anything. I see no issues.

Click the link and see if it looks 'similar':

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=50.673835,-125.189209&spn=1.890267,4.943848&z=8

Ascension
03-05-2009, 02:26 AM
Zombies. Every map could use a few zombies :) Seriously though, I think the only thing missing is some sort of shallows for the water. Rivers are interesting ;)

industrygothica
03-05-2009, 02:53 AM
I'm thinking somewhere between 50 and 100 miles, top to bottom. I know that's a pretty large variable, but that's where I'm at. I'd make it two miles if I thought it'd make it a better map, so I suppose it's really flexible. The link is a good reference.

I tried making some sort of shallows for the water, but it just didn't work out for me the way I was doing it. I got a sand texture and reduced the opacity, then masked out the whole layer. I painted a bit back in around the coast and faded it out to the sea, but it just didn't look right. Any suggestions on a different technique?

bartmoss
03-05-2009, 05:26 AM
Well the rivers are of course absolutely not feasible, especially the ones to the south. Most of them also don't seem to extend far enough inland for their width, but then again these could be creeks, fjords or something similar.

The rivers also seem to be bordered in a reddish color, but I am sure this is my colorblindness striking again and it's actually green?

As for suggestions for improvements - it's a bit barren right now. Give it forests and/or settlements. Add a compass rose, a scale, and maybe labels for important features.

Steel General
03-05-2009, 07:49 AM
I was all-prepared to have a litter of kittens - even had a camera ready so i could record it and send it to TMZ.

Then NK had to go and post that link and the litter went by the way side. :D

I agree with Ascension river/coastal shallows, maybe some beach/rocks. Otherwise it looks good.

NeonKnight
03-05-2009, 12:07 PM
I was all-prepared to have a litter of kittens - even had a camera ready so i could record it and send it to TMZ.

Then NK had to go and post that link and the litter went by the way side. :D

I agree with Ascension river/coastal shallows, maybe some beach/rocks. Otherwise it looks good.

Sorry, but the coast where I live, The BC Coast, looks a lot like what was posted.

Korash
03-05-2009, 12:52 PM
First thought was "Swamps".

then NK posted the link and like SG said "Oh. Well I guess that could work." sort of thing.

Like to see where you go with it.

jfrazierjr
03-05-2009, 01:00 PM
mmmmmm riiiiiverrrrsssssss...........

jfrazierjr
03-05-2009, 01:03 PM
Yes, I'm most certain that the River Police will have a collective litter of kittens with this one. :P Nonetheless...

I'm not terribly sure where this is going. I just woke up one morning and started drawing, and this is where I ended up. I don't think it's horrible, but it most certainly needs more. Trouble is, I'm not sure what.

Any ideas?


-IG

I am fine with this. Technically, I would probably not call most of these rivers and just make them narrow bays. I really see only 3-4 that I would properly label as a river. The rest are just fjords...

industrygothica
03-05-2009, 01:10 PM
I am fine with this. Technically, I would probably not call most of these rivers and just make them narrow bays. I really see only 3-4 that I would properly label as a river. The rest are just fjords...

I see a geography lesson in the making. I'll have to do some research, because I really don't know the difference between one or the other. At least not the technical differences...

Korba
03-05-2009, 01:13 PM
If we are involving river police they are much more likely to be Rias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ria) than Fjords :)

Korba

jfrazierjr
03-05-2009, 01:13 PM
I see a geography lesson in the making. I'll have to do some research, because I really don't know the difference between one or the other. At least not the technical differences...


Just go look at Norway... the entire country is pretty much fjords: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=62.134708,8.250732&spn=3.79137,9.887695&t=h&z=7

Gamerprinter
03-05-2009, 01:16 PM
Since a Fyord is cut from the land by glacial action, after the glacier melts away the scars remaining form the valleys of the fyord. Since the glaciers go all the way to the sea, what's left behind is below sea level. Thus a fyord is really a long narrow channel bay, following the path of the glacier's movement until it rises above sea level again towards the mountain source.

Rivers do flow into fyords, but occurs later.

Except for those fyords that have rivers flowing into them, there is generally no current, nor erosion caused by a river current in its making.

I'm sure someone could give a clearer definition. Wikipedia probably.

GP

industrygothica
03-05-2009, 01:40 PM
Yes, I've been bouncing all over Wikipedia all morning.

I think I've pretty much come to the conclusions that, with a little modification, I can make this area either full of fjords (in all of their various spellings), or, if I want a smaller scale, a ria.

I'm probably leaning more towards the fjords because it's a larger area, and a more diverse terrain (thus, more tinkering, and more learning). It also affords me the opportunity to put in some cold mountainous regions, which I've always been a fan of; it's a great place for zombies!

Any other ideas? I'm all ears!


-IG

Korba
03-05-2009, 02:31 PM
Scale isn't so important. Rias can be as large as the river that feeds them.

However as you say Fjords only appear in areas of glaciation. An extra point is that Fjords taper much less than rivers because unlike rivers the glaciers size is (generally) defined by its starting point and doesn't grow towards its end.

As jfrazierjr recommends take a look at Norway (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=59.226556,6.611023&spn=1.031497,3.570557&t=p&z=9)

I look forward to seeing how the map goes :)

Korba

Map Vandal
03-05-2009, 03:05 PM
When I first looked at this, I saw some sort of lowland river delta, probably because of the richly colored green land; however, with the rivers being rather short for their width, I think it would be better suited towards a rugged fjord-like setting.

Good luck with it.

industrygothica
03-05-2009, 03:29 PM
I played with the shape of the landmass a bit here, and tried to get it to make a little better sense. There's also a bit of a shallows, though I'm still not sure how that works.

I used a softer brush this go around, so some of the coastlines may be sharper than others. That's first on the list of things to fix next.


-IG

jfrazierjr
03-05-2009, 04:18 PM
I played with the shape of the landmass a bit here, and tried to get it to make a little better sense. There's also a bit of a shallows, though I'm still not sure how that works.

I used a softer brush this go around, so some of the coastlines may be sharper than others. That's first on the list of things to fix next.


-IG


Looks good, though I would suggest taking off the bevel of the land mass until you get your highlands into place. It looks odd right now because everything's so flat... besides, you might end up putting some cliffs somewhere in their for the fjords....