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Greason Wolfe
03-07-2009, 06:53 PM
Just a place holder for now, but hope to have something up later today or perhaps tomorrow.

GW

Greason Wolfe
03-09-2009, 12:30 PM
Dontcha just love it when family shows up unannounced and wants to take you out for a belated birthday dinner? :lol:

So obviously I was a bit delayed in getting this posted, but here's a rough of what I have going on. By my count, it more than satisfies the requirements, and I may even have to trim some of the rivers, streams and creeks back to a certain extent. The elevations aren't finalized yet, but I needed a general idea of where things would be as I started to lay them in. For the most part, the elevations represented below are very generalized and possessed of a consistent slope. More than likely, as I start building up the elevation, I will be more specific about it in some areas to better represent the source and flow of water. But it is a start.

GW

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jfrazierjr
03-09-2009, 01:01 PM
Be careful... it looks like the river on the mid right from the sample sketch has been directly extend, which is not valid in the rules of the contest. You might want to break that extension off and having it join the main trunk further downstream.

Greason Wolfe
03-09-2009, 01:08 PM
DOH!

I did that with all three of the rivers from the sample sketch without even thinking about it. But that shouldn't be a problem, was planning to trim some of the rivers back anyhow, guess those three will be the first one's on the block. :lol:

GW

Greason Wolfe
03-09-2009, 04:14 PM
As was pointed out, I had inadvertently extended the main rivers. I've since cleaned that up as well as a few of the less essential creeks and streams. I hope to be working on the elevation model shortly, but with a graveyard shift tonight, I'm going to have to call it quits for today. I may, in the long run, trim off a few more water paths to make room for better definition of elevations, but I'll have to take a closer look at things during the slow periods at work tonight and in the morning.

GW

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Greason Wolfe
03-10-2009, 09:38 PM
Thanks to some noisy neighbors yesterday afternoon, I didn't get much sleep before work and have spent most of today in bed. But I did want to try to accomplish something, so I decided to do a little "refresher course" in masks and textures today. It's really not much, but I need to get back in practice with those techniques in something other than Terragen. With an older version of Paintshop Pro, I'm not having as much success as I'd like at the moment, but then again, I'm still re-refining the process. As for actual progress on the map, not a whole lot worth mentioning. I did try laying out a "grassy" surface, but I'm definitely going to have to work on the "jaggies" along the coastal/shore regions. The grass looks pretty uniform right now, but I kept it simple for the time being with a bit of guassien noise over three layers using a "difference" and "overlay" blending mode. It's not a bad texture, but looks much better at mid-level resolutions than it does at full size or posting size. Hopefully I'll be able to re-refine the process before the challenge ends and have something complete to post as a final product.

GW

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Steel General
03-11-2009, 07:50 AM
This is coming along nicely, looking forward to seeing where you take it.

Greason Wolfe
03-11-2009, 09:24 PM
So I was going back and looking through the various stages of development and noticed an odd little quirk that, apparently, happened when I re-sized the image. The lakes in the south-eastern portion of the template got skewed somehow, one (the larger of the two) losing what appears to be a small island while the other (the smaller of the two) actually got broken into a pair of even smaller lakes/ponds. In accordance with the challenge specifications, I've had to back up a bit and fix this little problem, so it is going to be a couple of days as this is forcing me to re-route a few of the streams and creeks I had originally laid out. But I'm not one to complain. This actually makes a couple ideas I've been toying with a bit easier to implement.

As a point of reference, however, here is a better view of the area in question. And now I find myself wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem and if these problems would be considered more than "minor alterations" for the purposes of fractalizing the coast lines.


Minor alterations are permitted to fractalize the coast lines, but the depicted rivers, lakes/seas, and coastal shape must be recognizable as derivative from the original. The rivers provided are the main river system of the section of land. It is expected (nay, demanded) that you add tributaries to these rivers as well as add additional river systems to suit your needs, but the existing rivers may not be lengthened.

::Edit:: In hindsight, it is quite possible that in the process of erasing the gridwork and the areas in which no additional water works were required, I might have pushed an RGB limitation a bit too high resulting in the breaking of the one lake into two and the sinking of the island in the other lake. In any event, it is, so to speak, back to the drawing board for a little bit to fix these things up before moving on with the project.

GW

first image = original template

second image = template re-sized with no other editing

third image = removal of grid work and highlighted areas, note how the lake has been split in two and the "island" has disappeared

Greason Wolfe
03-16-2009, 11:55 AM
As I was working to fix the template lakes and rivers after noticing how they had been changed (see previous post) I was struck by a bit of inspiration for a different style approach based upon a map I found laying around the house. It's a slightly different approach for me, but I thought (or at least hoped) it would be something a bit unique as far as what I have seen of all the stellar maps posted in the guild so far. There's still a lot of work to do, but here is an early version for C&C.

GW

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Greason Wolfe
03-20-2009, 11:43 AM
Well . . . With my father back in the hospital again, I'm not having near as much time to work on this as I'd like, but we've all got our priorities. What little time I have had to work on this, however, has been spent working up a process to render mountains given the limitations of PSP 6.00. What I've come up with isn't too bad and does seem to suggest a bit of depth, though I'm sure it could be a bit better. If everything goes well (with my father, that is) I might still have enough time to finish this up before the challenge deadline, at least as far as detailing land and water. I doubt if I will have the time to properly label anything or add in any extra garnishments, but I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. For the time being, here's another sample of what I'm working towards. The "grass" texture is still large (in terms of scale) and is there only to get a sense of what things will look like when I start adding in vegetation.

GW

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Steel General
03-20-2009, 11:49 AM
Hope everything goes OK with your father. Mine's getting up their in age [78] and I worry that he still tries to do to much.

Greason Wolfe
03-20-2009, 11:53 AM
Hope everything goes OK with your father. Mine's getting up their in age [78] and I worry that he still tries to do to much.

Thanks for the well wishes, SG. He's not in desperate straights, but he's been through three surgeries in the last few months and is now having a breathing problem on top of all of that. He's a stubborn old fella though and he isn't ready to give up just yet. Still, he's mighty frustrated with it all.

GW

Greason Wolfe
03-20-2009, 01:56 PM
One more update before I head out to visit with my father. A few more mountains added and the rivers are starting to take on a better shape. Hopefully I'll be able to get some good time in on this later this evening. I don't like to rush things, but I really want to finish this one before the challenge deadline.

GW

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Ascension
03-20-2009, 05:27 PM
Looks way better than anything I ever did in PSP6...nice job.

Greason Wolfe
03-23-2009, 10:06 AM
Well, I'm still managing some progress between work and visiting Pop in the hospital. It's still not as much progress as I'd like, but I'll keep plugging away in hopes of finishing this up before the deadline. The good news is that this challenge is really inspiring me for some reason, so even if I don't finish before the deadline, I'll continue working on it and (if it happens that I don't make the deadline) I might even expand it just to see where it goes. As far as the latest update, I've added a few more mountains and included a ridge-like feature. Not 100 percent sure I like the ridge effect and if I end up deleting it, will have to re-route a few of the rivers, particularly those leading to the ridge and falling over it to pool below before joining up with another river.

GW

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Greason Wolfe
03-24-2009, 08:11 AM
They say these things strike in 3s, and now the second shoe has fallen. With another family member in the hospital, any time I might have hoped to put in on this is now gone. A real bummer because I was so enjoying this challenge. Anyway, to make it official . . . :((

I am here-by withdrawing from this month's challenge. As I stated in the previous post, however, I intend to keep working on this map once I've straightened out all the disasters occurring in the real world. And, as long as it is okay with everyone, I might even look into expanding it some just to see where it leads me.

GW

Steel General
03-24-2009, 08:45 AM
Yuck, that stinks. :P

Hope everything works out OK for both your family members GW.

ravells
03-24-2009, 05:54 PM
I'm really sorry to hear about your relative, Gearson. I hope they recover soon. All the best

ravs

Greason Wolfe
03-27-2009, 11:31 AM
@ Rav and SG - Thanks again for the well wishes.

And finally some good news . . . We got my grandmother out of the hospital and back home again, and it looks like we might get my father out of the hospital today and on his way home as well. Just waiting on a final evaluation from the doctors regarding his breathing situation, but everything is looking real good. We're hoping this is the end of his problems given all that he's been through over the last five months or so. Should that be the case, I'm hoping to get back to this challenge in the form of a WIP in the Regional Mapping Forum. Of course, there is still the voting phase for this month's challenge and that is gonna be a tough vote because there are several maps that I really like. Narrowing it down is gonna be almost as much of a challenge as creating the map itself.

GW

torstan
03-27-2009, 11:57 AM
That's wonderful news. I hope they both recover swiftly.

Steel General
03-27-2009, 01:44 PM
Fantastic news GW!

ravells
03-28-2009, 03:27 PM
Phew! That is good news.

Ascension
03-28-2009, 08:49 PM
Always a relief to hear about someone coming home. Hope things get back to normal for ya.

Greason Wolfe
03-29-2009, 12:09 AM
Always a relief to hear about someone coming home. Hope things get back to normal for ya.

That depends on how you define normal. :lol:

All joking aside. Everyone is home now and it has been a very long two weeks for me. Gonna take a couple days to myself (except for challenge voting) and then get back to work on things. I am eager as heck to get back to work on this particular map for some reason, and I am bound-n-determined to finish it up one way or another, even if it isn't for the challenge.

GW