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pasis
04-26-2009, 03:03 PM
Time for a new project again and Iím planning to make it quite big with a lot of details in it. Letís see if can hit a sweet spot or suffocate while trying.
I have been implementing new techniques and ways to generate height differences and here is a small sample to give you an idea. I still need to add a lot of vegetation as itís too rocky at the moment. Also the rivers should be straighter in many places as the water should have carved smoother way through the rock over time.
Please let me know if this is good of if there is too much going on there.

Gandwarf
04-26-2009, 03:34 PM
Very nice textures so far. It's going to be sweet to watch your progress :D

Steel General
04-26-2009, 04:15 PM
Looks good so far

overlordchuck
04-26-2009, 05:20 PM
I agree. Looks great so far. My only problem is that the texture on the mountains looks a bit too dense for me.

Ascension
04-26-2009, 07:54 PM
Looks like a "Badlands" type of area to me so I'd suggest something more arid/tan and less lush/green or flatten out the crunchiness. Looks nice, though.

Bohunk
04-26-2009, 08:50 PM
Sure its good. Keep going with this. I would like to see the final product.

pasis
04-27-2009, 01:55 AM
Looks like a "Badlands" type of area to me so I'd suggest something more arid/tan and less lush/green or flatten out the crunchiness. Looks nice, though.

The ground was originally more tan, but I added adjustment layer in last minute to make it more green, which I agree is not maybe the bets solution. Good thing is that I can correct that in just one click.

And as overlordchuck said the mountains are too rough. I'm good at adding roughness, but not good at taking it away. The texture itself is so crunchy and if I blur it, it doesen't look good as everything else is so sharp and if I reduce the opacity, they become transparent. Maybe adding another sedate layer on top (or below) and try playing with layer properties and opacity. If anyone has a nice method for this I'm all eyes.

altasilvapuer
04-27-2009, 05:25 AM
For taking away detail, you could try playing with difference blending modes, or something. Invert the over-roughed layer, set it to difference (or something similar), and a ridiculously low opacity. It'll probably produce really terrible results with just the filter applied at first, but if you do some tinkering and add in other techniques, you might be able to come up with something; who knows?

Another option might be to duplicate the rock layer, and put some low gaussian blurs on it. Then drop a black layer mask on it, and brush with white at low opacity set to 'lighten' and lots of overlapping strokes to bring back some of the sharpness. Might even things out more.

I actually haven't looked through any of your tutorials, yet (which is surprising), so I don't know enough about your techniques to offer more specific ideas, currently. Hopefully I'll have time in a couple days for more.

-asp

pasis
04-28-2009, 03:32 PM
I've been tossing this around countless of times and tried many techniques with no luck. The problem lies with the technique I use to raise the mountains as it roughens up the textures significantly.
I need to move on and come back to this problem at a later time as it seems I cannot crack it now.

pasis
04-29-2009, 05:52 PM
The overall shape is forming up toward to its final look. Most of the costal line is not finished though but is a rough sketch made with large brush. The sample here is in low res and the original is 6000x8000px, but you should get the idea and there is actually a ďpicture in pictureĒ showing the real resolution.

Next to come:
- Finalizing the mountains as those are still almost flat. Also some other terrains need more shadowing to get them more 3-D.
- Finalizing the coastal line and add islands.
- Most of the paths for the rivers are ready and rivers can be drawn.
- Add more vegetation (grass brushes and trees).
- Civilization and all things related

So it will take at least few more weeks so I guess Iím in half way there as I started about two weeks ago.

overlordchuck
04-29-2009, 11:45 PM
Damn. That's huge. I don't think I've ever worked much higher than 5000x5000 or somesuch. Lookin' good! At first glance, the lower left corner looked like a 90 degree angle, but on closer inspection I can see the coastal breakup.

EDIT: Whoo! Guild journeyer FTW.

pasis
05-02-2009, 07:52 AM
New update folks, not a majos one though. Worked further finalizing the costal line, but it takes ages and is the boring part (so I haven't got that finished yet). Also added more height to the mountains and started to play with overall color scheme to get more desert look to the south and more fertile to the north.

Ascension
05-02-2009, 09:00 AM
Looks like some good scrub land or chaparral like in Arizona or something.

Steel General
05-02-2009, 12:30 PM
Very cool...

pasis
05-04-2009, 10:01 AM
Finally got the coastline finished and cleaned up (I definitely need to find a better way to do it before I start any other project).
Got also more rivers running and started to add more vegetation as well.

NymTevlyn
05-04-2009, 11:11 AM
The water could use some work, imo. Just doesn't look "natural", which is really stupid to say when you look at some real world satellite images.

pasis
05-04-2009, 11:21 AM
well it is not stupid to say that the water doesn't look right as this is not a satellite image. All the textures (land and water) are created in combination with genetica viewer and Photoshop and are not a copy from any real life image or texture. The water is a combination of several different layers and adjustment layers with some blurring and other simple tricks so editing it is relatively easy. Any suggestion what should be done differently?

Ramah
05-04-2009, 12:14 PM
I actually like the look of the sea. Personally I don't like it when a map has a sea where you can see the ripples and waves, as if it was photograped from 200 ft in the air.

NymTevlyn
05-04-2009, 12:27 PM
I'm talking about how ridiculous and un-maplike some satellite images can look. My issue with the sea in the above map is that the colors don't follow the coastline.

pasis
05-04-2009, 01:13 PM
I took the "gradient overlay" effect away from the sea-layer and added darkening color following the coast line. The effect is pretty mild, but can easily be stronger. Let me know which one you prefer.

NymTevlyn
05-04-2009, 01:54 PM
Looks better. It's a bit saturated, but if it's in tropical waters, that's fine.

Katerek
05-05-2009, 07:12 AM
I love the effects you achieved on the land-mass. You have my envy and respect.