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Danbereth
05-19-2009, 12:50 PM
Hello people, I'm new here. I'm running a tournament-like event on an RPG forum and I need 6 different duel maps for two two-men teams fighting. I need it ASAP and with some obstacles, different items to use, places to hide, covers etc..

I don't have any programs to do cartography and I'm not much of a cartographer myself. So, if someone could help me it would be very useful and I would be very pleased; but since I'm living in Turkey and am an alone-living student, I can't pay anything.

Gandwarf
05-19-2009, 01:32 PM
Just a suggestion... asking for something free, but also using words like "ASAP" is a good way not to get what you want :)

Redrobes
05-19-2009, 03:26 PM
I would check out our finished map section - try the thumbnails and look through. If your posting the maps on another forum then it might be good to ask the owners of the maps if thats ok. Theres gotta be a few maps in there that fit the bill.

ravells
05-19-2009, 05:09 PM
Hi Danbereth!

Following on from Gandwarf...the word 'please' often helps if you want stuff for free. Also please read the sticky about defining what it is you actually want so potential respondents to your request have a better idea of what you require and whether they want to do it for you.

I do understand that BBS's are anonymous places, but everyone reading your post is another human being who likes to be treated as such and not a resource for your own projects.

Being somewhat older and around before the internet was invented, this expectation that people on the internet will do what you want because you demand it is an exercise in futility.

In short, please treat people here as you would expect to be treated.

I think I'll amend the sticky to say that.

Your project sounds interesting, but if you want to engage people in it to help you, you have to first:

1. tell them more about it
2. tell them exactly what you want
3. treat them like human beings.

best of luck! (and I suggest you edit your original post and try again)

Ravs

Ascension
05-19-2009, 06:05 PM
Some rough sketches also help, they don't have to be great but basic shapes with words that say something like "barrels here" or "pile of junk here". That way the people can see if it something that they can actually do just by looking at it.

Cheers.

icosahedron
05-20-2009, 10:39 AM
Hi Danbereth,

I'm not an expert cartographer, I'm just learning, but I might be interested in drawing up some arenas, depending how good they need to be and how soon you want them.

I could maybe use them myself, so my help isn't entirely altruistic. ;)

Are they fantasy or scifi?

As ascension said, some sketches would be useful.

If you are likely to need more stuff in the future, it would be a good idea for you to get some of the free software such as Inkscape and Gimp and have a go.

As I found when I joined, you'll get more help to improve your own skills than help to draw stuff for you.

Let me know what you need.

Danbereth
05-20-2009, 01:30 PM
Alright, editing my older post would be awkward. I'd like people to see what I've done, and I'm really sorry for it. Yesterday was not a good day for me at all.. So, I'm here, apologizing.

Redrobes thanks for advice. I've actually found two beautiful battle maps here: http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=860 and I'm going to ask NeonKnight if I could use them or not.

Ravells thanks for advices.

Alright, the tournament will be a two on two dueling event. If there are people who know about DnD (and I saw there were), I actually need some DnD miniatures battle map just like the ones in the link I gave above; but without any bonuses for classes or races. I want every little class and race to be equal with others; but I also want some obstacles to make the battle a little bit more entertaining. I really would not care the types of obstacles. The people who are vounteering to help can prefer which kinds of obstacles they can use.

Ascension, again thanks for advice. Guess I won't need a sketch with the example I gave above. But thanks again..

Icosahedron, I would really appreciate your help. They don't need to be "really" good; but I'd like something like the examples I gave above. I want them until June or July and I guess (if I can get the permission from the owners) I already found 4 arenas by searching around. The arenas should be fantasy.

And thanks everybody already for your helps.. I'm seriously sorry for behaving awkwardly.

Gandwarf
05-20-2009, 01:39 PM
I applaud your latest post, Danbereth. I hope someone can help you.

Ascension
05-20-2009, 05:23 PM
Now that's a good post dude. The link says almost everything. There are a lot of dungeon designers here so I'm sure you'll get some feedback. You might also want to look on the Dunjinni user forums as there are some uber sweet dungeons there.

jaerdaph
05-21-2009, 07:56 AM
Does ASAP (As Soon As Possible) really have a negative connotation?

I was pleased when I was able to get my former boss to use ASAP instead of 'I needed it yesterday'... :D

icosahedron
05-29-2009, 05:13 AM
Is this any use?
Just a first draft, playing with an idea. I can alter it pretty much any way you like, or scrap it entirely.

A chamber perhaps 100ft by 50ft with pillars, 4 entry doors each fronted with a palisade, a central wooden platform a couple of wooden posts and some barrels.

Danbereth
05-29-2009, 12:26 PM
Well, thank you. Really.. (:

It looks good but I was looking something more like these: http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=860

With grids and better colorings.. But well, this will also do if I could have grids on it. Thanks again, I really appreciate your work. (:

jfrazierjr
05-29-2009, 12:47 PM
Here (http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=4339&highlight=dwarven) is a barebones underground dungeon map I made while playing around. I made this in about 15 minutes of playing(and so could you with about an hour of getting textures you like as well as learning GIMP). Once you have your base structure in place of whatever shape, another hour or so of finding objects to be obstacles and your done. Of course, once you have your "set dressing" objects, you could use them on as many maps as you wanted in seconds each.

Another thing that was not mentioned: how are these maps going to be presented? Ie, do they need to be a specific size for printing, or a certain size for use in a VTT like Maptool or whatever? If the map will just be printed on screen, will you need coordinates so that players can say where they are moving to (think of Chess coordinates, Knight to G4 or something like that.) Also, any specific size limits(ie, your server won't let you upload files larger than X MB for example) These details really help the artists be able to present something you can use in the least amount of time.

icosahedron
05-29-2009, 02:40 PM
Well, thank you. Really.. (:

It looks good but I was looking something more like these: http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=860

With grids and better colorings.. But well, this will also do if I could have grids on it. Thanks again, I really appreciate your work. (:


LOL. Very tactful. So that's a scrap it and start again. :)

I've been planning to play around with Torstan's dungeon tiles that he posted recently, so this sounds like a good excuse.

Square grids is easy, hex grids is harder for me but doable.

Danbereth
05-31-2009, 01:33 AM
After seeing jfrazierjr's Dwarven Outpost map, I taught "well, I guess I found the last map I needed."

That dungeon would really help me, if you'd let me use it. And it will be the 6th and the last map I was in need of.. So if jfrazierjr accepts, I'm done and I really do appreciate being helped by you people.

I have two official duel arenas from WotC and four unofficial duel arenas (That's if jfrazierjr gives me permission). Three of NeonKnight and one of jfrazierjr..

jfrazierjr
05-31-2009, 10:16 AM
After seeing jfrazierjr's Dwarven Outpost map, I taught "well, I guess I found the last map I needed."

That dungeon would really help me, if you'd let me use it. And it will be the 6th and the last map I was in need of.. So if jfrazierjr accepts, I'm done and I really do appreciate being helped by you people.

I have two official duel arenas from WotC and four unofficial duel arenas (That's if jfrazierjr gives me permission). Three of NeonKnight and one of jfrazierjr..

You are free to use that map for Non Commercial use as long as attribution (ie, give me credit and link back to the guild post) is done where-ever you repost it.

Danbereth
06-01-2009, 01:36 PM
Consider it done (: Thanks for permission..