View Full Version : ICE commission: Cyradon Awakened Lands

05-20-2009, 02:45 AM
OK, I finally completed this map for Iron Crown commission. I had to tweak it about 4 times, since their rough draft was really rough and I had missed some detail they required.

Also, against my grain, I had to place a river anamoly. If you look at that larger city labeled in gold, called Belynar, just to the south of it is a forested plateau. If you notice the river from the south forks downstream (meh) around that plateau, one side joins one river to the sea, the otherside to another river to the sea. Like I said, not my choice, but required for the commission, oh well.

Now its time to get paid.

This is an All Rights Reserved map, so no downloading, just viewing please - it will be available in future Iron Crown Enterprises HARP game products.


Steel General
05-20-2009, 06:22 AM
Neat stuff GP!

05-20-2009, 09:05 AM
Before submitting that, you may want to fix a few errors on it.

Notibly, the text/font. In places the Contours.& other features are over top the text:

Rhona Valley

otherwise. Good Job

05-20-2009, 11:18 AM
I fixed those labels, but after I removed the file here, I intended to reupload, then realized it was over 5 MB this time so too big to load. I need to go back and resize again, and upload again, probably later today.

I didn't reallize the size issue until after I removed the previous one - whoops!


05-20-2009, 11:27 AM
Very cool map - I saw it before you deleted it.

Congratulations on the ICE work. It's looking really good.

05-20-2009, 11:32 AM
Got it now!


05-20-2009, 11:44 AM
This is an All Rights Reserved map, so no downloading, just viewing please - it will be available in future Iron Crown Enterprises HARP game products

I wonder if perhaps we should have a discussion about commercially commissioned maps posted here and watermarking. My theory is that people who come here looking at the maps and are not full time community members may just look at a map and grab it and may not have read every post in the thread. My thought is that a watermark(perhaps one that covers most of the map) however is fairly hard to ignore(assuming you speak the language of the OP) while still making enough of the map visible for us users to get an idea of how well your work turned out. Granted, watermarks are able to be defeated fairly easily, but at least at that point, you have a trail that the stealer of the image as malicious in intent...

Sorry for the threadjack... Not sure if anyone has any comments that would warrant a new thread for discussion of this topic....

Steel General
05-20-2009, 01:00 PM
It is a good point JFJr... not sure how many of us it would actually affect. Maybe we create a separate forum just for commissioned work *shrugs*

05-20-2009, 05:37 PM
Honestly, I question the posting of them at all. There are so many pirated copies of movies that you can get before the advertisers ever start brainstorming that sooner or later one of these maps is going to turn up somewhere it shouldn't. I'm fine with posting snippets, sort of like a teaser or movie trailer, but posting a whole map...I dunno. You could type out a disclaimer in the biggest font possible and still there would be a punk somewhere out there just trying to rain on someone's parade in order to prove how cool he is to other "mom's basement" dwellers (which I was for a time so that makes me uncool too). My 2 cents.

05-20-2009, 06:03 PM
I like to see commissioned work to use as a benchmark for my own skill development. To see if the maps I make are "good enough" or on "that level". So all in all I hope to see them when available. I agree that anyone could pirate it, however I cant see them (fantasy maps) being used any other way than for "personal use" at their own game table. Sure some person will tell their friend THEY made the map but i cant see a map taken from this site being republished for commercial use. As soon as it goes to publication its legal plagiarism and the gaming industry isnt nearly large enough that it could be republished without being noticed. A major columnist for a large NY? newspaper just got caught plagiarizing a paragraph from a Blog. It was noticed even amongst all the articles and blogs on the subject (Bush and Cheney). The gaming community is so small i cant see how you could Publish something without SOMEONE noticing it from somewhere else. Not a FACT but assumable. I vote for watermarking just to keep the commisioning companies and the members of this site as integrated as it is. (I hope it gets to the point where this is the first place an RPG company would come to, to recruit a cartographer - we offer many different styles)

05-21-2009, 12:07 PM
I agree, we should have some system in place to avoid commissioned works being taken just like that. Maybe at least some lower quality?

I have to say that when I am in a hurry and scan what is new on here, I do not always read the complete info on it. In this case, the only reason I noticed this map (which is very cool) is a commissioned map was because the first post missed the map so I read it in detail. I can imagine quite a few who mainly read do just the same without any bad intention.