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Tolkienreader
07-13-2009, 10:29 PM
Hi guys, I'm from the Philippines and I have been constantly editing my map for the novel I'm working on. I wanted to use adobe photoshop CS3, but unfortunately I have no background in it. I was searching the internet when I stumbled upon Cartographer's guild. And I was just taken away with the maps that you guys make. It's just awesome.

I have hand drawn this about four times now, constantly editing my map for inconsistencies. I've been meaning to edit it using photoshop so I searched youtube for how to's and I think zombienirvana's fantasy cartography is a great help, but he starts from scratch, I haven't seen one that use scanned maps for starters. I'd wanted to change the forests, blacken the mountains and colorize the map. But i don't know how to. :?: Can someone help me please? Suggestions are most welcome. Thanks guys!

Immolate
07-13-2009, 11:35 PM
Hi TR and welcome to the guild. I work with many people from the Philippines every day as my company has a significant call center presence there.

Your map is quite fascinating already, and you've already done the hard part. What I want to suggest to you now may seem counter-intuitive, but I think you should go through a few tutorials using Photoshop... Ascension has a fantastic one out there. This will help open you mind to new ideas and teach you how to do things you may not know how to do. Once you have done some of this, I think that ideas for ways to improve your existing map with start to flow quickly.

One other thing I'd like to recommend. You should definitely spend some quality time with the lasso and pull some of the elements into different layers. Forests should have their own, as should mountains, etc. You will be very glad you did.

I think you'll find that most people here are resistant to telling you what to do. We want you to understand more of what you can do and then experience the joy of deciding yourself what works best. Good luck and I look forward to seeing what you do with your lovely map.

Tolkienreader
07-14-2009, 12:03 AM
Thanks immolate, i'll take that into account. I'll post my map when it's finished for sure :) By the way how can i access ascensions' tutorials?

Steel General
07-14-2009, 06:42 AM
Welcome Aboard!

My wife is from the Philippines and I have been there several times.
We are truly becoming an international community :)

Ascensions tutorials can be found in the Tutorials Forum (http://www.cartographersguild.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48)

Redrobes
07-14-2009, 08:14 AM
Welcome, theres a members map under the "Community" menu item (Guild Member Location). I think you will be a dot on your own for now tho.

NeonKnight
07-14-2009, 11:30 AM
Welcome to the Guild!

Tolkienreader
07-17-2009, 07:53 AM
Thanks everyone for the warm welcome.

Tolkienreader
07-17-2009, 07:54 AM
and thanks steel for the info. found it and its really helpful.

Gandwarf
07-17-2009, 08:01 AM
Your avatar is disturbing me :)

Tolkienreader
07-17-2009, 10:42 AM
just thought it was funny, I remembered happy tree friends.:)

DethinBlack
07-17-2009, 12:38 PM
Welcome TR. Beautiful map. I had the same issues you are describing when I went to do the map for the world i'm creating, and now I am building all of the skills that I can. I feel its really helped me, and i get the added bonus of working with new map styles, so that later I have more of them to chose from! Yay!

Happy Mapping!

waldronate
07-17-2009, 02:34 PM
Someone call the River Police! Oh, the humanity!

There are some flow issues with the rivers on the map that are quite jarring to me but from a drawing standpoint it is quite well done.

Tolkienreader
07-18-2009, 03:12 AM
yeah, when i read the rules in making rivers, i noticed that i have some flow issues (like the river in the center of the map). I must follow terrain altitude. I am still new to cartography and this is only the first draft, I will surely take into account all the suggestions you can give.

If you would look in the bottom of the map, the coastline is like jagged. In the past, the island on the bottom of the map and the big landmass in the left are once connected. The story is in the past, after the banishment of the children of Anu, they built a great civilization, called Ur. There they built a tower, called the tower uruk (much like the tower of babel), but when the gods saw the hubris of their creation, they sent a big rock of fire from the sky to destroy the tower, the impact caused the separation of the land mass which over time gave the jagged coastline, the lines there are not rivers, but are fissures where sea water drained.

I have erased the whole drawing and left only the outline of the map. because i think i had much to do with the mountains and rivers of my map. still a work in progress.

ravells
07-18-2009, 05:32 AM
Someone call the River Police! Oh, the humanity!

There are some flow issues with the rivers on the map that are quite jarring to me but from a drawing standpoint it is quite well done.

No Need, you've just been deputised.

Welcome to the Guild, Tolkienreader!

silverhead
07-18-2009, 06:24 PM
Your map reminds me a lot to the one of the Middle Earth that came with the first "Lord of the Rings" book that I read. I mean it as a compliment: it's a clean style, and very well executed. It's brought nice memories :-)

Aidan
07-18-2009, 07:29 PM
If you don't own photoshop already, I'd recommend The Gimp, and point you to RobA's excellent tutorials on creating regional maps.

Tolkienreader
07-18-2009, 10:48 PM
Your map reminds me a lot to the one of the Middle Earth that came with the first "Lord of the Rings" book that I read. I mean it as a compliment: it's a clean style, and very well executed. It's brought nice memories :-)

Thanks silverhead, my map and story has been influenced by tolkien's lord of the rings actually so there are some similarities. :)

Tolkienreader
07-18-2009, 10:49 PM
No Need, you've just been deputised.

Welcome to the Guild, Tolkienreader!

Thanks ravells, cartographers guild really is a supportive community. I am thankful I found this site.:D

Tolkienreader
07-18-2009, 10:52 PM
If you don't own photoshop already, I'd recommend The Gimp, and point you to RobA's excellent tutorials on creating regional maps.

Unfortunately I use photoshop already. But I'm actually thinking of trying gimp. Anyone who can give me the pros and cons of the gimp vs CS3? thanks! :)

Steel General
07-19-2009, 08:48 AM
Each have their strengths and weaknesses - one thing that PS does have that GIMP doesn't (at least not yet), is the lighting effects filters. But GIMP has the Script-Fu and Python scripting engines, something that PS seems to have missed out on.

Tolkienreader
07-19-2009, 10:51 AM
Each have their strengths and weaknesses - one thing that PS does have that GIMP doesn't (at least not yet), is the lighting effects filters. But GIMP has the Script-Fu and Python scripting engines, something that PS seems to have missed out on.

I am sorry steel but i am not familiar with script-fu and python, what does it do? :)

Steel General
07-19-2009, 01:35 PM
They allow you to write scripts to combine various actions the program can do. Others (like RobA) could explain them much better than I ever could.

Aidan
07-19-2009, 01:41 PM
Well, the one big advantage the Gimp has over Photoshop is that it doesn't cost $700.

Tolkienreader
07-19-2009, 10:35 PM
thanks steel and aidan i'll think it over.:D