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ritalee76
07-26-2009, 12:07 AM
We have "nerd night" on Sundays. I made a "world map" ... Turned out okay for my first try, I guess... Here is the link to the thread...
http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?p=69796#post69796

Now, am working on a region-specific map for tomorrow night. The party will have a choice to make as far as what to do next and the local tavern owner will be giving the head of the party the map in order for them to decide what to do next...

The party is currently in "Ethadia"...

Any advice is greatly appreciated. :) I really don't like the way the rivers turned out :(

Rita
PS. I use photoshop cs3

ritalee76
07-26-2009, 12:08 AM
This is only my second map. It doesn't hold a candle to some of the beautiful maps I've seen. This map is purely the result of some of the best tutes I have ever read (and my new wacom tablet)

Thanks guys, ya'll are awesom!

Ascension
07-26-2009, 12:25 AM
This is a great lil map, lots of character. The rivers look fine except I think I see what yer gettin at with the stroke covering them up partially at the coast. To get rid of that I would make a new layer on top of the land, then grab a brush and paint in some blue to cover that stroke. This is the easiest and fastest way and I know of at least three other ways to fix it but they all take a lot of time to explain and to do and usually just confuse people...so just paint some blue on a new layer to cover it up :) The only thing I might suggest is to make the forests just a tad darker, not too much just a skosh (or however you spell it) because we don't want to ruin the faded look, just make em pop a lil more. Might do the same on the hills and maybe add some hatching to shade em. I'm still gonna rep ya for it cuz I can't seem to get myself to simplify and make nice maps like this.

ritalee76
07-26-2009, 12:37 AM
Thanks! Will be working on that tonight, then... Any suggestions on how to blend the coast with the river? Hmmm.. The rest is easy LOL

ritalee76
07-26-2009, 01:36 AM
Darkened the treed just a "skosh" :) Same with the hills... That made the original hashes stand out a bit... Not too sure if it needs more or not.

Tried to fix the coast. It doesn't blend as well as I'd like but attempts to fiddle with it made it uglier LOL

Also added simple bridges.

Please critique :D

Edited to upload the RIGHT one!

craggles
07-26-2009, 01:44 AM
I'm just about to do a quick vid on how I'd approach the rivers/roads/coastline blend.

In the meantime, I've painted over the areas in question. :)

ritalee76
07-26-2009, 02:01 AM
very nice craggles - let me know when / where I can see that vid - that looks MUCH better :)

craggles
07-26-2009, 02:02 AM
Darkened the treed just a "skosh" Same with the hills... That made the original hashes stand out a bit... Not too sure if it needs more or not.

Tried to fix the coast. It doesn't blend as well as I'd like but attempts to fiddle with it made it uglier LOL

Also added simple bridges.

Looks like I didn't post fast enough. :)

(I would create the coastlines and the river as one element (which I'm about to show) which would mean they'd blend easily)

ritalee76
07-26-2009, 02:16 AM
Tried a different paper for effect...

I think I like the new paper better...

Waiting on a video :)

ravells
07-26-2009, 05:14 AM
Hi Craggles, please use the thumbnailing feature to post your maps, rather than external links (unless external image is a small one) so it doesn't slow post downloads. (I've thumbnailed your map in this thread) To use the thumbnail feature:

When you are writing a post click 'go advanced', click on manage attachments and follow the instructions. Thanks!

ravells.

Steel General
07-26-2009, 05:15 AM
Looking good so far...

Wouldn't a pirate lair be located a little closer to the coast? :)

Gandwarf
07-26-2009, 05:22 AM
Nice stuff... the map has a unique look to it and it's very pretty. It's simple (there's not too much stuff happening in the map), yet very elegant. It's a great map for setting the mood for a game for example. Love the paper texture.

craggles
07-26-2009, 05:27 AM
Hi Craggles, please use the thumbnailing feature to post your maps, rather than external links (unless external image is a small one) so it doesn't slow post downloads. (I've thumbnailed your map in this thread) To use the thumbnail feature:

When you are writing a post click 'go advanced', click on manage attachments and follow the instructions. Thanks!

ravells.

Thanks Ravells, I wondered why it came up as a large map - I had foolishly assumed it would thumbnail automatically. :oops:

craggles
07-26-2009, 07:13 PM
Waiting on a video

It'll be tomorrow morning now. :)

ravells
07-26-2009, 07:33 PM
Thanks Ravells, I wondered why it came up as a large map - I had foolishly assumed it would thumbnail automatically. :oops:


No worries!

someguy
07-27-2009, 04:50 AM
I like it. It does what a map should, with out having to be over stated. the boarder effects are simple yet elegant, the shading and map text choices are simply superb.

I'm only being this long winded because this thingy wants me to type more than "Cool map!"

su_liam
07-27-2009, 12:38 PM
Wouldn't a pirate lair be located a little closer to the coast? :)

Don't see a scale bar. That could be the high-tide line...

craggles
07-27-2009, 06:28 PM
Waiting on a video :)

The wait is over - the small size is available now but the larger sizers will have finished being uploaded in about an hour and a half.
Graphic Basics Supplemental Tutorial - Layers (http://graphicbasics.co.uk/2009/07/layers-supplemental)

From the skill level you are (from looking at your maps), it'll seem very basic at the beginning but has some of the good stuff later. I wanted it to be more accessible to others who'll be on a lower skill level.

The beginning goes quite slowly (as I was very tired while recording) so apologies for that. I did think about speeding it up somewhat but my voice went smurf like. :D

craggles
07-27-2009, 06:33 PM
Also, the video is only about various masking techniques of layers and doesn't talk about creating paper textures at all (which you didn’t need anyway). :)

ritalee76
07-27-2009, 06:47 PM
Awesomeness! Thanks, will be watching tonight when I get home from work :)

You are the bomb-diggity

craggles
07-27-2009, 08:39 PM
Awesomeness! Thanks - You are the bomb-diggity

You may want to hold the praise until you see it first. :D

ritalee76
07-29-2009, 12:31 AM
Video has been watched and you ARE officially the bomb-diggity :D

Thank you so much for making the dang clipping masks make sense (finally)! I've been photoshopping for years and never understood it fully till now. :D

Plus, you've got the best accent ;)

ravells
07-29-2009, 04:29 AM
Fantastic video Craggles, I've never even heard of clipping layers (only been using ps for 5 years) or thought of using smart objects in this way. Have lots of rep!!

craggles
07-29-2009, 06:10 AM
Fantastic video Craggles, Have lots of rep!!

Thanks ravells - oooh 18 rep points, nice. Did this have anything to do with mentioning your coastline tutes? :)
On the subject of tutorials, I have enjoyed yours a lot especially the city design info, I definitely needed all that info. For our current campaign, I'm needing to add several cities so I can now make them actually work correctly instead of randomly throwing buildings here and there and hoping for the best. :P

On your blog site, however, a lot of your finished maps were using Photo Bucket for storage and it appears you've moved or deleted several of them so we can only see the Photo Bucket warning thumbnails. :(


Thank you so much for making the dang clipping masks make sense (finally)! I've been photoshopping for years and never understood it fully till now.

I've never even heard of clipping layers (only been using ps for 5 years) or thought of using smart objects in this way.

Excellent! That's one of the reasons I thought I'd do a vid tute as it makes it a lot easier to understand if it's shown, than trying to follow some of my inane long winded written ramblings. :P

You may have noticed from the Graphic Basics site that it's intended to be a full Photoshop (as well as Illustrator and InDesign at a later date) Training course for the beginner, moving onto the intermediate then and all the way to advanced but I had to stop thanks to health. I'd already written a dozen or so chapters but didn't want to officially start until I'd be able to fire them out at a consistent rate. :(

But, (and this is the point to the info in my previous paragraph) to see the level of information given in Photoshop tutes that were out there already, I watched quite a large number of them and one of the things they all seemed to miss out are clipping layers. It's also not the sort of thing that's not easily apparent if it's activated as well as a difficult thing to activate in the first place unless you know it's there already. It was one of the great things added back in Photoshop 4 I believe or it may have been in Photoshop 3 when layers themselves were first introduced. Over the years, it seemed to have been forgotten thanks to the introduction of layer masks, styles, groups etc so I'm very pleased to have reintroduced/clarified clipping layers! :D

...and saying that, thanks to being unscripted, I've just realised that I missed out the advanced blending options for a layers entirely (which are in addition to the layer blending modes of 'multiply', 'screen', etc) but I'm not sure how they'd be of use for mapping; but then again, I wouldn't have thought using rendered clouds would be a useful thing to do for mapping coastlines either. :P

hmm - I'm feeling the urge to record some of the episodes I've already scripted now! But I'd not worry too much at watching them just yet because they're all starting with the VERY basics (hence the name) for people who've only just picked up Photoshop for the first time. The intro to layers that I have scripted, for instance, doesn't even mention layer styles, masks, groups etc - it's THAT basic!

There's several episodes all about how RGB and CMYK work, what resolution is all about, going through the tools etc so it'll be a very long time getting anywhere near to something useful for your levels!

...ah, speaking of inane long winded ramblings, I think I'll stop it there. ;)


Plus, you've got the best accent

Thank you - I'm very glad I didn't speed the vid up now for Smurf vocals! :D

ravells
07-30-2009, 04:10 AM
Don't think I ever did any coastline tutes (I generally draw them by hand with the pencil tool)....the two best ones (IMO) are RobA's and Ascensions. I'm glad you found the city tutorial helpful. It struck me that we were all getting highly developed on style but many of us (including me which is why I started to write the tut in the first place) really didn't know an awful lot about the fundamentals of city design.

Sorry about the blog site - I recatogorised the photos in photobucket so all the links are broken. All the maps there are posted here though.

I'm self taught on PS and have scoured the web for tutorials, but never have I found one on clipping layers. I use smart objects for photograph editing but never saw a use for them in mapping...until now that is. Thanks for opening my eyes!

I have to say that your clipping layers / smart object technique is the most useful tool for non-destructive mapping I've seen for many years and it really deserves more visibility. You should cross post a link to your video tutorial on the tutorial section (which is the most visited part of the site). Do that, and I'll give you a tutorial award so that more people look and learn from it.

best Ravs.

craggles
07-30-2009, 07:09 AM
You should cross post a link to your video tutorial on the tutorial section (which is the most visited part of the site). Do that, and I'll give you a tutorial award so that more people look and learn from it.

Thanks Ravs

I've added it there. :)

http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?p=72219#post72219

Steel General
07-30-2009, 07:17 AM
hmmm...yet one more thing I'll need to check out. :)

Diamond
08-01-2009, 01:43 AM
Rita: the colors on your map(s) are gorgeous. Very rich and textured. Me likes!