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Diamond
08-02-2009, 01:17 AM
Trying something a bit different (for me, anyway) here. I've got the land 'climate bands' colors and look the way I want them, but I'm not altogether happy with the look of the oceans. Any suggestions or good ocean patterns people want to offer me are more than welcome.

Also, what's a good method for making mountains in PS that would look good on a map like this? I don't want to use icons, and frankly, I don't know where to start looking through the tutorials here to find what I need. Help!

Gandwarf
08-02-2009, 06:56 AM
You could try Pasis his mountain style:
http://www.cartographersguild.com/showthread.php?t=4405

Steel General
08-02-2009, 10:25 AM
Pasis' tutorial is a good choice, a bunch of folks have had incredible results with it.
I also have a short tutorial in there some where that uses stacked, pattern-filled layers.

As far as your water goes, I don't think it's so much the pattern as maybe the colors. It looks more like clouds and sky than water. You might try some darker blues.

Ascension
08-02-2009, 12:23 PM
What I see is that the lighter water doesn't follow the landmasses...it's arbitrary. I would suggest using a low opacity airbrush to lighten the water around the coasts and darkening the water that is nowhere near the coasts before using the filter.

sarandosil
08-02-2009, 12:26 PM
Pasis's technique is good, but it requires a little more skill than others I think. It can be rather frustrating trying to get the layers to blend nicely if you're not used to doing much hand-painting.

Diamond
08-02-2009, 03:32 PM
Thanks for the tips, guys. I think I'm going to try out Pasis's tut and see what I can do... If the results look halfway decent I'll post 'em here.

Diamond
08-02-2009, 08:28 PM
Well, that tutorial, while AWESOME! was not exactly what I was looking for. It did give me some ideas though, and I eventually opted for something a bit simpler. I also changed up the patterning on the land and sea to something a bit more uniform; just a hint of wasteland in the north.

Next up is rivers. Think I'll hand draw those with my shiny new tablet.

Gandwarf
08-02-2009, 08:55 PM
These mountains will certainly do as well.

Diamond
08-02-2009, 09:03 PM
What do you think about the new sea texture? Better? Worse? Meh?

töff
08-02-2009, 09:31 PM
What do you think about the new sea texture? Better? Worse? Meh?I like the previous one better because it has more contrast and therefore more character. But they both need to be way darker, I think. They look like cloudy blue skies with that powder blue dominating. In a satellite-photo style, I think you want satellite-photo seas. Pale blue seas is for National Geo maps and old globes.

Diamond
08-03-2009, 12:47 AM
Well, I experimented with making the seas darker, and it just didn't look right with the land; too hard to tell where one ended and the other began. So, for now, anyway, I'm going to stay with what's there.

Here's an update, rivers and forests added.

töff
08-03-2009, 01:25 AM
... experimented ... didn't look right ... going to stay with what's there.
That's all anybody can expect from an artist: to try his options and make his choice! Cheers to it!

AslanC
08-03-2009, 02:32 AM
Oh those are looking very nice! Good stuff :)

Diamond
08-03-2009, 02:36 AM
And one more update for tonight. Playing around with city icons and text. I'm not happy at all with the city icons; they're more placeholders right now than anything. The text, on the other hand, I think looks pretty decent. I'm trying to keep it to two styles, Home Remedy for nation names, and Roman Antique for terrain features and city names.

Steel General
08-03-2009, 07:25 AM
The city icons aren't to bad, my suggested changes would be to;

- remove or reduce the drop-shadow
- reduce the opacity of the stroke/glow you have on them

Diamond
08-03-2009, 12:26 PM
The city icons aren't to bad, my suggested changes would be to;

- remove or reduce the drop-shadow
- reduce the opacity of the stroke/glow you have on them

That's exactly what I was thinking. The stroke is just too bright as is; I'll try and fade it down to around 50% and see how it looks.