View Full Version : The Land of Ire and Ice

08-20-2009, 03:32 PM
Hola folks!

This is my current project. I had the sudden urge to take Iceland and Ireland, rotate them a bit and then subtract Ireland from Iceland. It seemed like a good idea at the time, and it still does really. :D

There's still loads to be done, but the basic landscape is there. The mountains were done in pasis' style, but with the layer's fill set to 0 (i.e. no visible pattern), and original maps of Iceland and Ireland I used were from Google maps.

As usual, I'd greatly appreciate any feedback.

08-20-2009, 03:45 PM
Hey that is a great and original idea!!! Rep for the idea and that it looks good already.

08-20-2009, 03:52 PM
Looking nice so far. Especially the snowy mountains to the northeast. And subtracting countries from each other to create a new landmass is indeed a great idea :)

Steel General
08-20-2009, 05:21 PM
Neat idea, looking forward to seeing it develop.

08-20-2009, 08:38 PM
Oh, I like this idea! Brilliant!
I'd rep you, but it seems I need to spread it around some, first.

Looking at this, I'm getting the idea to combine some landmasses, as well, though several. I'm thinking it might be interesting to take multiple continents/subcontinents/etc, threshold them to strict 2-bit black & white, and set the layer style in PS to either exclusion or difference. That way every time I place a landmass over another, it'd subtract from the existing parts, and add to the existing holes. Could be pretty interesting.

I might also try it with just grayscale, rather than straight 2-bit B&W.

Very intriguing idea, Flaterectomy!


EDIT: I tried fidgeting about with both grayscale and the 2-bit, and it seems the 2-bit worked better, especially when combined with some cloud filters underneath merged down to randomize the coastlines, and the patched together. Didn't work as well as I'd thought, but I think that was mostly due to the limited time I spent on it.

Can't wait to see more of this map, though. Very spiffy.


08-23-2009, 02:28 PM
Update! :D

I started labelling early this time, so I wouldn't feel like I was doing something sacreligious later on. ;) The names here are Irish translations(1) of the meaning of the original Icelandic towns and cities(2), barring Aontroim (which is the Irish name for the Northern Irish town of Antrim) and the island Oileann na Neagh, which is actually a lake, Lough Neagh, in Northern Island. I'll likely be putting some Irish coastal towns on the "inner" coastline as well.

I also added more rivers, which all (more or less) follow the path of the real rivers in Iceland, and since I took an Ireland-sized bite out of it they just run from inner-sea to outer-sea now. I'm not sure whether I like this too much (feedback please :D), because the river police might eat me. ;)

Other work done so far includes desaturating the sea somewhat, and I added some general texture/grain.

altasilvapuer: I'm glad you felt inspired to tinker with due to this idea! :D I've also started pondering on a few other ways to play with the principle, I doubt this'll be my last augmented-reality (for lack of a better term) map.

1. My friend from Ireland who has been translating these for me has stated "I won't win any awards for Irish there and my old teacher would maybe clatter me but that's about as well as I can do I think," so please be gentle.
2. These meanings could very likely be wrong as I got them from teh interwebz, were mauled by an online Icelandic -> English dictionary, and I wasn't too picky here to begin with. ;)

08-23-2009, 02:34 PM
I like the labeling a lot. Were you perhaps inspired by Tear's map of Westeros? He used symbols a lot like yours for the towns and villages.

08-23-2009, 02:38 PM
Gandwarf: Yeah, Tear's work on his Westeros map left me dazzled and I'm trying to make something to that standard. Not really getting there yet, but I try. ;)

08-29-2009, 12:19 PM
Seriously guys, I'd really appreciate any crits, ideas, and suggestions. ;)

In this update I've not done much to the landscape. I've added more labels including (future) forests, mountains, and glaciers, many of them requiring translation still --- names with double exclamation marks need work, as do all the Oileann-prefixed islands in the inner sea because they're getting a bit too similar like that. So far translating actually soaks up more time than the graphics work does. :D

I also added symbols for fortresses or castles, and would love to know what you think of them.

I'm still debating whether to alter the rivers. Right now I am leaning towards changing them so they start in mountains that actually exist on this map rather than mountains that were removed when I cut the Ireland-sized hole.

And while researching names I found out that Iceland is actually known as 'The Land Of Fire And Ice' (I think I heard the name before, but completely forgot), so the title of this map will of course become 'The Land Of Ire And Ice' rather than '...Ice And Ire'. ;)

08-29-2009, 12:36 PM
Rivers starting in the mountains would be a good thing as most of the rivers don't follow the rules at the moment ;)
I really like the little shield icons.

What's up with the exclamation marks? !!

Also I changed your thread title.

Steel General
08-29-2009, 12:37 PM
I like the shield symbols, they work well with the others you've already used.

08-29-2009, 01:04 PM
Gandwarf: Thanks for the title fix! :D The exclamations are to remind me that I need to replace those names with translations once I get them. ;)

08-29-2009, 02:13 PM
As I am both Celtic and Viking, this sings to my inner barbarian ;)

Well done and I am enjoying watching it develop.

Is this for an RPG project or "just 'cuz"?

08-29-2009, 02:28 PM
AslanC: Let me know if I do something to upset your inner barbarian, because I have no Viking or Celtic ancestory, and I'm scared of barbarians who can be unforgiving in the face of ignorance. ;)

This project is just cuz, but I try to think 'what if this was an RPG?' while mapping so that I'll think of things to add aside from towns and cities, like the addition of fortresses, and possibly continuing the border between Ireland and North Ireland to pass into this map to create some kind of conflict zone.

08-29-2009, 02:31 PM

No worries mate.

Keep up the good work and you have nothing to fear from my sword ;)

08-30-2009, 03:19 PM
I'm with Gandwarf - those shield icons are really quite amazing, and they fit really well.

I love following this map, because it's one of the most intriguing ones I've come across in a while. Can't wait to see more!


02-25-2010, 02:57 PM
Howdy folks! This thread clearly died a quite while back, and that's because the map became impossible to handle on my old computer. Fortunately, I have a shiny new computer now with a lot more processing power and a very pleasant graphics card, so as you can imagine I am already playing around with the map at the moment, and updates will resume once again. :D

Just thought I'd mention it. :)

02-25-2010, 04:38 PM
Always good to get a new toy and see what it can do :) Have fun.

02-26-2010, 10:34 AM
Huzzah! Glad to hear it; I can't wait to see what else you come up with.