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Balalaika
09-05-2009, 05:02 PM
I Don't know what add to the map but it doesn't seem complete to me.
So I post here to hear some comment.
The idea is that "you" (the commander) scan the space with an old fashioned screen.

here is the unfinished map :

Ascension
09-05-2009, 07:34 PM
I have no ideas as to what could be missing, sci-fi is not my area of expertise. But, you are right, it does seem to be missing something...not big just something small. I think it looks pretty good, though.

Gandwarf
09-05-2009, 07:46 PM
I quite like it... not sure if you should add anything. Luckily we have a few people who create sci-fi maps and I am sure someone will come along soon.

altasilvapuer
09-05-2009, 10:19 PM
I've been looking at this on and off for a few hours, and still feel it's definitely missing something, but I'm not entirely sure what, yet, either.

Part of the ship carrying the camera on the edge of the view somewhere, perhaps? Or another ship in the view?

I think the problem might lie in that gap between the nebula and the top left corner-thingy around the planet, but I'm not wholly sure.


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Actually, I take that back. I just looked at it again, and I think the amount of stuff is just right. Try bringing the opacity of the grid down as low as you can without losing sight of it. Basically to the point where it's still clearly visible, but that your eyes are drawn first to the planets.

Space is often empty; highlight that. Silence can be music and emptiness can be art, too.

-asp

icosahedron
09-06-2009, 02:59 AM
Well, as a sci-fier, I have a couple of comments:

You could include an inset screen, maybe somewhere top left, with scrolled data, or an alternate projection (a 'concentric circles' system layout map, for example) or a 'radar sweep' panel.

A nitpick would be that you'll never get all those planets (and stars!) visible together. Space is huge. If you had one on screen, the others would be pinpoints - unless they were moons of the main planet. But I'm a scientist and an artistic philistine, so just ignore me! ;)

Jykke
09-06-2009, 03:03 AM
I think there is some scale issues also. If you scaled down some of the planets, it would atleast look a bit more natural. That could solve one issue, but on the other hand, cause other ones.

selden
09-06-2009, 07:05 AM
A "real" spacecraft's display would be highly processed in order to show whatever is important to the viewer. The on-screen sizes of the objects wouldn't necessarily be proportional to their physical sizes, for example. I think some kind of (textual?) scale information is needed to clarify this.

This could be a display showing the planets of a three-star system.

One thing that's missing is the orbital paths. I'd expect the display to include elliptical lines showing how the stars and planets travel around one another.

Moons are missing, too.

The thing that's bothering me the most is the illumination of the planets. If the images are supposed to be magnified real-time views of the planets as seen by the spacecraft, then the planets that are on the far sides of their respective suns would be gibbous (more than half illuminated) while the planets that are on the near sides of their suns would be showing only crescents. Also, the illuminated sides should be pointing toward the stars that they're orbiting, with the centers of the crescents pointed directly toward their sun's center. They shouldn't all be pointing in the same direction.

Here's an example of what I mean, although with only two stars:

http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~seb/celestia/images/gl.jpeg (http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~seb/celestia/images/gl.jpg)

(This thumbnail links to a much larger image. The picture was created using Celestia.)

töff
09-06-2009, 11:15 AM
A nitpick would be that you'll never get all those planets (and stars!) visible together. Space is huge. If you had one on screen, the others would be pinpointsI think this is more than a nitpick. I think it nails what's "wrong" with this image (which does not seem to be a map of any sort, btw). The arrangement of the planets makes no sense. It's an impossible real view ... and if it is an abstract representation of the planets, with realistic enlarged images placed in some sort of pattern for the sake of information display, then the pattern makes no sense.

I also wonder about the double-lines overlay on the largest planet. Is that some kind of surface feature? It seems not to conform with the globe in any way I'd expect (like following latitude & longitude).

It is very pretty, though. But it's confusing. I don't know what this is.

icosahedron
09-07-2009, 02:12 AM
A "real" spacecraft's display would be highly processed in order to show whatever is important to the viewer. The on-screen sizes of the objects wouldn't necessarily be proportional to their physical sizes, for example. I think some kind of (textual?) scale information is needed to clarify this.

This could be a display showing the planets of a three-star system.



Good points.

BlackLotus
09-07-2009, 11:19 PM
Ohh my God! This map is awesome!!!!

wormspeaker
09-08-2009, 12:39 PM
I don't really know what's missing except to put in another vote for some data windows. However, this seems more like a brochure of the local sights than a map. The type of data presented seems more in line with a vacation presentation than an actual tactical map which the context of the piece seems to indicate that it is. There's nothing wrong with that, but you seem to be mixing your signals.

The piece seems to be saying "here is a visual presentation of the local stars and the planets of interest around them but don't expect it to be an accurate presentation of real positions," but the context of the map is "here is a tactical presentation of a fleet and its intentions." The two just don't seem to mix well.

Ascension
09-08-2009, 05:48 PM
That is perfectly said, wormy...looks like a brochure or maybe a board game.

Rythal
09-12-2009, 05:29 PM
my 2 cents is that the planets don't really fit into the background. Either make the planets as faded as the background (which to be honest looks like chalk smeared on a chalkboard), or make the background stand out a lot more by getting rid of the spaceship view screen and putting in a "glass window" view instead.

Also, the planets seem way to big for a realistic depiction

brutal honesty ftw!

Uomaru
09-16-2009, 06:18 PM
Cool map! I really like the look of the planets and I can’t really think of any constructive critique at the moment. I only wonder one thing; in the small text where it says that Akissi Kane is under "ennemi" fire, do you perhaps mean enemy fire? Just being a little picky ;)