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11-14-2009, 05:34 PM
Here is my latest project with CC3
Open to Critique especially since this is my first map posting on this great forum.
This is a small section of the overall world and is still being toyed with.
The Blue water to the left is a temporary overlay until I redraw the entire continent.
11-16-2009, 09:09 PM
Here is my current whole map still some areas marked with "Here be Dragons!" but it is coming along. Still experimenting with sheets and effects but I feel it is a decent start.
11-17-2009, 09:37 AM
This is coming along nicely.
One thing I would recommend is to not use red for label coloring without some kind of drop shadow, stroke or glow around it. It tends to 'bleed' in to the background (at least for me) and become difficult to read.
11-17-2009, 10:14 AM
It looks quite serviceable. It's clean and easy to follow, but perhaps a bit bare. I'm sure it'll grow over time though.
11-17-2009, 05:28 PM
yeah, coming along nicely. The 2nd map with the lowered land in the SW is interesting (I live below the sea-level myself ;) maybe some dark shading on the edges could add to the 'lowered land effect'.
11-18-2009, 08:38 PM
I have been experimenting with some effects but not quite where I want it stay tuned though. Really trying for a Bludragon cliff effect on the walls.
08-01-2010, 02:11 PM
Ok so finally getting around to updating this post. I have been focusing in on the campaign regions, trying to expand the details and the places. I recently overlayed the entire map using Rob A's Gimp Tutorial but I haven't been able to master the mountains yet and they look awful so I will post that when and if I figure out how to do it. I would really like to get elevation down because the haven and swamp areas look strange vis a vi the river flows if you don't understand the location of the plateaus and the thousands of years of erosion. The sinking of two empires due to magical warfare. Ie I have placed the Arkhosian and Bael Tuarth empires on either side of the Mountain range for my campaign play. The image of Floating Citadels and dragons warring across the mountain range was just too cool! The net effect is the empires sunk beneath ground. Great mires of water and labyrinth dungeons exist all submerged beneath the ares of highest rain fall. I know the rivers are totally wrong, just can't figure out how to correct them and keep the trade regions and plot devices in place without mangling the maps.
Anyone with any ideas on how to raise the section of moonfall swamp above the southern mountain region or the black marsh above the northern hill groups would be my new hero for the week :)
02-18-2012, 03:08 AM
Spent awhile playing with different methods. Still has some red text which needs changed but here is the current work in progress. Still not happy with how my mountains are coming out. Also, need to add in some more rivers on yathe.
02-18-2012, 05:23 PM
Welcome back! Is this also done with CC3 ? I dont have the prog.
02-18-2012, 05:48 PM
No I have grown too frustrated with cc3 crashing when trying to export. I am using Gimp primarily now. I'd like to use RobA's satellite mountains or Torstan's hand drawn top down style but neither seem to come out right. I thought someone might be able to take a look and tell me why these look so odd.
02-18-2012, 11:50 PM
42355Well the mountains are too straight and regular. As I remember the mountain tutorial the mountains need to be built up gradually and each layer gets "sharper" and narrower by use of smaller brushes. They should also taper at the ends instead of just cut off. The example is very crude but shows what I mean. You might need to go over the tutorial again to see if you missed something? The basic map shows alot of potential ; take it slow and experiment.
02-19-2012, 02:46 AM
I will be back to playing with it again tomorrow. Any chance you can post a screenshot of the layers you used to do that. I think it would help me to visualize how it's done.
02-19-2012, 01:36 PM
Actually it was done in Photoshop. Gimp is in some ways similar but in alot of ways different. I downloaded RodA's tutorial and it wasn't simple to follow and had alot of steps. Here is a link to RobA's Video of the tutorial .http://showmedo.com/videotutorials/video?name=2620000&fromSeriesID=262.
I used Tears Tutorial.http://www.cartographersguild.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19894&d=1262251614 It is for Photoshop but might be convertible for gimp ?? I don't know much about Gimp I have it but use it mostly to convert certain file types for use in Photoshop . There are some Gimp experts here that might be able to convert it for you. Not much help I am afraid .
02-20-2012, 01:20 AM
Alright so here is attempt number 2. Looking any better. I think I need to do a little tapering in the Molmar (south east corner of the continent).
Thanks lostatsea a few more hours fiddling and I may of something usable.
02-20-2012, 07:10 AM
I would make the peak of the mountains a bit more sharper, means smaller brush and stronger emboss effekt. Perhaps you find a texture for grasland, forest and desert to give the landscape more charakter
02-20-2012, 05:32 PM
Looking better ! Keep trying ;sorry i couldn't be more help ! Did you get a chance to view RabA's video ? It seemed easier to understand than the pdf version ?
03-01-2012, 12:39 AM
Rob A's video tutorial was better. Still need to fiddle around with it, but its getting a lot closer to what I want. Thanks
I continue to play with it a little bit here and there. One decent mountain in the lower part of the left continent.
Not sure I like the sea scape effect may go back on that one. <shrugs>
Reps for the help!
03-04-2012, 12:22 AM
Getting there !:) Don't get discouraged ! Once you learn the software enough to get it to do what you want it to.Things will come along much faster. I've been plugging away for a few years and still haven't decide on a "STYLE" i want to use yet but I have learned a lot about what Photoshop can and can't do so once I decide how I want things to look It should go pretty quick. I HOPE !! :)
I would also say it's coming along nicely, but I'm also going to repeat Steel General's point - red text on greenish backgrounds is a bad idea for colour blind people. I.e. me :D
06-03-2012, 01:43 AM
Another work in progress, really hating the Red text and the blue font for the rivers, but the style is more like what i want. I think the water is too dark and I need to add some forests and things but been awhile since I did an update so... here ya go. Thanks for the pointers everyone.
Note: If anyone has an easy way to update the font colors for the newest version of GIMP I am all ears.
06-03-2012, 05:09 PM
If the text is in its own layers, then you should just be able to select the text layer and change the color by selecting another. Otherwise, you could probably select by color and use your fill tool to change the color.
07-08-2012, 02:10 AM
Very nearly done now. A few little things to tweak.
07-08-2012, 02:20 AM
For giggles here is the original map from 2003 just before the campaign started. This was back when all I had to work with was MS Paint :P
And the same view using Arsheesh Tutorial
If you think you can't learn to do this... its not true. I can't draw a straight line with a ruler, but with a little time and effort (father of five working 60 hours a week, so mapping is a small hobby) you can.
07-08-2012, 07:28 PM
This has come quite a long way! A couple of small critiques:
1. The font on the western archipelago is difficult to read;
2. It looks like there is some overlap between the the great lake in the north of the West-most continent and the land surrounding it;
3. The transition from temperate to arctic zones seems a bit stark (if you apply a 100px Gaussian blur to the arctic color layers this might help a bit).
Otherwise looks great!
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